The Carbon Tax will wreck Australia

WTF?!?!

Do you know what pH is? It can be measured. Easily. Acid rain has decreased since the implementation of SOx and SOx emissions trading

since implementation of phase one of title VI of the Clean Air Act of 1990, acid rain concentrations in the North Eastern U.S. have decreased by as much as 20 percent,"
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1998/09/980928072644.htm (199
Now - you keep avoiding the question

Emissions trading has been proven in the past to reduce emissions. Why do you insist that the same strategy will not work on a larger scale?

Do you think you could answer the question this time?

 

I do know what pH is bugs and no it cannot be measured so easily depending upon which way the wind is blowing the amount of moisture in the air the temperature, the pressure the sun direct or indeirect sunlight, whether your standing next to a coal fired power station or up in the mountains.

By the way bugs are those statictics real or virtual or just the bottom line of an emmissions trading scheme where the companies have bought credits to ofset thier emmission footprint.

 

Emissions trading has been proven in the past to reduce emissions. Why do you insist that the same strategy will not work on a larger scale?

Do you think you could answer the question this time

 

How has it been proven to work?

These figures that you are quoting are they because the companies that do the emitting bought sox credits to offset their footprint?

Is that what you are interested in bugs a pseudo bottom line, well i for one am not interested in what happens on the stock market when it comes to polluting the Earth.

I want direct action where it can be measured in real terms.

Not some ponzi stock market scheme run by bankers and speculators.

FFS look at what they are doing economically to the world.

Do you really think they will handle polluting the Earth any better.

The only thing thier interested in is making a quick buck full stop.

Your arguement is flawed because like i said in the previous post its hard to measure if they did indeed make an attempt to.

But i think what you are getting there are the farming, sales and distributions of sox credits.

Nothing to do with whats actually happening in real terms.

That is why it wont work bugs.

And on a bigger scale there will be more corruption.

 

You can't answer the question, can you.

Emissions trading has been proven in the past to reduce emissions. Yet for some unknown reason you cannot explain, you insist that the same strategy will not work on a larger scale.

Thanks for your contribution.

 

Nothing to do with price pressures. It is just good economic sense, I would wipe out any other expense I had if I could so easily. As I have told you before, I saw the sense in free power from the sun and started using it over twelve years ago. Grid electricity was pretty cheap back then. We also have a windmill on our bore, free power from the wind. And what is also important, we don't have to do any of this, we could easily pay for grid electricity. So no, nothing to do with price pressures. Wrong again Bugsy wugsy.

 

You have just explained how you have reduced your consumption to save money.

Good on you.

It appears you were wrong when you wrote:

You are an excellent example of how people will change their behaviour when there is an economic reason for doing so - including reducing their electricity consumption.

Of course - not everyone is as far-sighted as you. Some may need the prompt of further increase in prices. But the principle is the same. People will change their behaviour when there is an economic reason for doing so - including reducing their electricity consumption.

 

But there is a big problem with Juliars carbon tax increasing the price of everything. According to your own endless bleating about the subject most people will be more than commensated for any increases, so there will be no economic reason for changing their behaviour.
And I don't think you have any understanding of human behaviour. Just because something makes economic sense doesn't mean someone will do a thing. Juliars carbon tax certainly won't make anyone change their behaviour.

 

But you would be completely happy with an emissions trading scheme without the fixed price period. Is that right?