The Case For Allowing Trump To Stay In Office, Even If He IS Guilty

Then. . . . Why bother with the investigation???

 

There is an utterly hostile media and a hysterical opposition which the media in cahoots with, both are on a war path, distorting, lying, misquoting, making up fake news and presenting absolutely everything in absolutely worst possible light.... I don't think giving the ammunition to your persecutors and witch hunters would be a smart thing to do. Do you?

Depends:

If undeniable evidence is found (and there is not a shred of it as of now) that he is a Putin's agent your assumption is incorrect, his supporters won't defend a traitor.

If, on the other hand Mueller digs up some dirt dating back years/decades and totally unrelated to Russia's election meddling, yes that will be correctly viewed as a witch hunt and fishing expedition, it won't go well with Trump's supporters who did not vote for Mother Teresa in the first place and this WILL lead to further division or worse.

 

I am convinced that Pence would be worse than Trump as President. However, there is no good option here. What you are proposing is letting a President get away with a criminal act. I agree that removing Trump will have important immediate consequences. The worst of which will be having Pence. The country will become more partisan either way. Imagine the reaction of Democrats if Trump is found guilty, but not removed from office.

But not removing Trump will set a terrible precedent for all future Presidents. We will have institutionalized the concept that the President is above the law. And this is not going away. It will be in our history and in our laws for all time. And it will also be in the mind of every single future President. If we get another "Trump" as President (and we will, at some point), impeachment will be regarded, not as a serious process but, at best, just as an annoyance.

The consequences of removing Trump would be negative, but relatively short-lived. The consequences of not removing him would forever change us.

 

I think it's interesting that Trumpers are beginning to talk about what happens once it's been established that the assertions about Trump and his campaign are true.

NO...he can NOT stay in office . He is a compromised incompetent.

The damage he could inflict once he knows he has nothing to lose is incalculable

 

The only thing Trump is guilty of is beating a ancient crooked hag without the permission of the left or their media. The rest is all fake news with its fig leaves of imaginary 'anonymous sources'...

When the media discovered it could invent 'facts' (think Dan Rather) and make those inventions 'true' simply by legitimizing the fiction with the use of 'anonymous sources' (Think your child's imaginary friend).

Where they failed was in exceeding the publics tolerance for imaginary friends. Just like 6 year old's, the public expects the media to outgrow their use but apparently that is all the media has to push their agenda and carry that dem water.

 

. . . . Wait out a bomb with a timer to see if it explodes??? If collusion between Putin and Trump IS involved, what's next. . . . An Oval Office sleepover???

A line has to be drawn somewhere, and those limits have already been set.

 

Sad to see people childishly trying (and failing) to score cheap points based on this totally hypothetical scenario started by clearly a non-Trumper. That you have to resort to petty attempts to turn a civil "what if" discussion into an admission of guilt is desperate, pathetic and embarrassing.

 

The only thing we know is that liberals will do anything to remove him from office.

The only people who actually colluded to steal an election was the Democrats.

 

If there is any evidence of criminal activity there have to charges,and the GOP will have to decide whether to impeach or wait for the verdict from the trial.
I doubt very much that the GOP would like to have a convict as President.

 

It's never been about impeachment, it's about obstructing the RNC agenda! YES yes the very same thing they accused the RNC of during Oberry two terms and the same thing they are so concerned over Russia about! The lemming may believe there is a chance at impeachment but their handlers know full well its and never was going to happen, all they are working to achieve is happening, they have their base eyes shut and beaks wide open screaming for dung beetles!

 

Of course he should be impeached if guilty of rigging the election. That most certainly is a high crime and misdemeanor.

Of course due to the partisan nature of our system, the current congress would not even draft the Articles... so there will be President Pence... thank God, yes that was meant ironically.

 

PRINCIPLES? Seems trumpettes have disposable ones always at the ready.

 

It would be necessary to impeach for the good of the Republican Party.

Not relevant, since Pence is more than capable of being President, much more so than Ford was.

You also ignore the impact of the Vietnam War on society. There is no parallel today.

 

I think...that even the most hardcore TrumpHumpers are beginning to understand their man crush is about to become burned toast and they need to fantasize about any way to save him.

 

We're talking about a group of people who just tried to run a story that "Trump had a secret meeting with Putin".

That the "sekret meeting" was at a dinner for hundreds of dignitaries at a summit meeting didn't slow them down.

Now we have a story "leaked" by an unknown source about the Russian ambassador telling another Russian about his discussions with Sessions regarding US/Russia policy.

How many ridiculous stories have we had in the past year that are a complete joke?

This entire narrative is about the Democrats declaring war on a guy who stopped them from rigging a US election.

Give me a break.

 

The only people who believe that are the people who have been beaten down mentally by the steady lies and make believe stories coming from the MSM.

 

What?

Congress believes Russia did a bad thing and retaliates; therefore Trump is guilty of something?

Would you explain the steps used to reach such a conclusion, please. I'm not getting it.