The Case for Impeaching Clarence Thomas

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  1. Jack Hays

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    That was not the question before the court. The question was simply whether that type of communications were covered by executive privilege.
     
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    From the second inaugural address:
    ". . . If we shall suppose that American slavery is one of those offenses which in the providence of God must needs come but which having continued through His appointed time He now wills to remove and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him. Fondly do we hope ~ fervently do we pray ~ that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword as was said three thousand years ago so still it must be said 'the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.' . . . ."
     
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    I hate to pee in your cheerios, but interracial couples, especially a white/black interracial couple, have always been discriminated against, questioned, etc. If a black man has a white child with him, do you expect that the child is not his? Or that he is a pedaphile? Or worse. From the article, "In the 1980s, Michele Farrell, who is white, was dating an African-American man and they decided to look around Port Huron, Michigan, for an apartment together. "I had the woman who was showing the apartment tell us, 'I don't rent to coloreds. I definitely don't rent to mixed couples,'" Farrell said.

    In March, a white man fatally stabbed a 66-year-old black man in New York City, telling the Daily News that he'd intended it as "a practice run" in a mission to deter interracial relationships. In August 2016 in Olympia, Washington, Daniel Rowe, who is white, walked up to an interracial couple without speaking, stabbed the 47-year-old black man in the abdomen and knifed his 35-year-old white girlfriend. Rowe's victims survived and he was arrested." Notice who are the perputrators here. I am in an interracial marriage myself and I have had comments, mostly from the so called Evangelical Christian side, that I married a heathen (because she is Chinese) or that she must really give good massages and a "happy ending" or some other nonsense.

    And then you have the senator who made the statement that the Loving Case, the interracial marriage case, should never have gone to the Supreme Court. And on cue, the modern conservatives defended the Senatorial candide's remark as "constitutionally correct" which means, you are attacking interracial couples as a legal marriage and denying what the senatorial candidate said. Modern conservatives then threw in the "race card" for good measure so that modern conservatives would not have to talk about the ugly truth of what Gini Thomas said in those text messages about January 6th. It's a deflection to the real issue, the insurrection by a group of people who WERE NOT following the Constitutional process for electing the President.

    Finally, in my first post in this thread, I commented that forcing Justice Thomas to retire or face impeachment is not going to happen because it is his wife that made the texts. It is not a qualifying measure under the rules that federal judges follow. So, I never included race or lack thereof in my original and continued argument why Justice Thomas is not going to recuse himself on a particular case that is coming up. Is that racist to you?

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/50-yea...-couples-still-face-hostility-from-strangers/
     
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    Really, I have gone to Downtown Dallas for over 2 decades and have not seen institutionalized racism. What has happened was that many of the buildings were converted into condos/business sudios. Now, we can take South Dallas and look at Oak Cliff region. Do you know there are $1 million homes in Oak Cliff. But the common image of Oak Cliff from outsiders is that it is a gang infested, very poor region. The reality is that both are true. And that is what you will find. The reason there are poor and "rich areas" is that there has been no investment in those areas. But Dallas has done a good job in that region, especially the Bishop District I might add. And you will see that in most Urban areas around this country.

    Now if I were to take you to the Eastern Appalacians in Kentucky and Tennessee, what will you see? 50% of the populalion on meth, moonshine, and most people extremely poor. Reason, no infrastructure there. Is that systemic racism? And BTW, in the Eastern Appalacian mountains of Kentucky and Tennessee, it is mostly white there.

    You are making gross generalizations about urban centers that you do not know anything about.
     
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    Nope.
     
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    So why did you bring racism into the equation in the first place?
     
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    Democrats brought race into it 31 years ago when they smeared Thomas as a black sexual predator during his confirmation hearings, and they've kept it alive right up until today. To Democrats conservative blacks are runaway slaves who have to be hunted down and destroyed as an example to others..."know your place!"
     
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    Poor excuse
     
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    I watched those hearings. Both sides presented valued arguments to their side. It was not because he was black, it was because he may have made questionable decisions. Personally, I think Anita and Clearance had a secret, romantic relationship, and that relationship went south. But that is just my opinion. Anita Hill, to me, acted like a scrorned woman in public view.

    However, I originally decided to think Justice Thomas was not qualified is because the ABA was split on its decision stating Clarance Thomas was qualified. And the ABA rarely does that. The ABA said, "The bar association committee that conducts the evaluations split on President Bush's choice to succeed Thurgood Marshall on the Court, with a majority rating Judge Thomas "qualified" for the job and a minority of two members finding him "unqualified." No one on the committee found him to be "well qualified," the third available rating and the association's highest."


    https://www.nytimes.com/1991/08/28/...on committee that,"well qualified," the third
     
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    I put no confidence in that ABA rating at all. He was clear about his conservative views and most people in the chattering classes and in the legal profession disagreed with his views. They are not immune from bias. That's all there is to it. He's a conservative black man in worlds dominated by leftist ideologues, and they hate him for it.
     
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    I trust the ABA more than anything else when it comes to who is qualified for a seat at the federal bench level, any level. ABA is a traditionally conservative body that uses the interpretation of the law as it's guidance, not political idealogy. And the committee that evaluates candidates and gives reports is one of the most professional here in the United States.
     
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    While I was having some fun, that doesn't say what you said.

    You keep saying full due process, which keeps bringing a smile to my face, so thanks for that..
     
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    Yeah... to eliminate the influence of political interests in government accountability. This is the reason why Republicans did away with them.
     
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    I don't know what you're talking about, but checks and balances refers to the branches of government limiting each other's powers in order to prevent abuse. Not to internal kerfuffles within political parties This is not a privilege or a "right" or ... anything of the kind. It's an obligation. And Senate Republicans refused to do their job during the Trump impeachments.
     
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    I don't think you understood my point. And it looks to me that's because you are too caught up in the academicism of the matter.
     
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    Republicans ADMITTED the charges were legitimate and that they had been proven. They simply didn't care. Some of them even said so.
     
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    I'd like to take what you say seriously, but to do so you have to substantiate your claim.
     
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    Nope. Checks and balances exist because of the influence of political interests. They were/are the Framers' way of using personal interests to achieve public good.
     
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    Well, my claim is an opinion. But, I'd point to the polls showing Biden's falling approval rating and the gradual, but steady, movement of minority voter preference from Democrat to Republican.
     
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    The unwritten part of your reply being.......in your opinion.
     
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    IOW, because poll respondents wrongly blame Biden for inflation you believe the Dem agenda is unpopular........but you can't prove it.
     
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    Well, yes. That's why this is a forum.
     
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    What a load of meaningless crap!
     
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    And, there I thought you might have been looking for an honest discussion. Silly me.
     
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    Poll respondents blame Biden for inflation because Biden is to blame for inflation.
    Opinion: The Biden blame game on inflation won't work - The ...
    https://www.washingtonpost.com › 2022/03/11 › biden...


    Mar 11, 2022 —

    ". . . Americans aren’t stupid. They know what inflation was doing to their purchasing power before Putin’s tanks rolled into Ukraine, and they will correctly assess a portion of blame for further price hikes on Putin. But when the president tries — brazenly and repeatedly — to argue that pump prices are Putin’s fault, he loses ground with the American public, and he doesn’t have a lot of ground to lose.

    Here are some truths held by the center right. They are contested by various folks on the left. What matters is that they are common-sense observations that likely cannot be turned around by economists, analysts or pundits.

    First, the “covid relief” bill that Biden pushed through in early 2021 was unnecessary and inflationary. Supply chain problems did indeed make it much harder to produce more goods for the new money to chase and thus contributed to the inflationary surge, but it was new money created by deficit spending that exacerbated the inflation.

    Second, the infrastructure bill was bipartisan but also contributes to inflation because the market doesn’t care what you are buying commodities for; it just cares about demand for commodities. You can be buying steel for a bridge or steel for a yacht, but it’s all just steel and demand drives prices. Adding an infrastructure spending splurge in an inflationary environment had Republican and Democratic support, but it still contributed to inflation.

    Third, killing the Keystone XL pipeline was the sort of sonic-boom signal the oil market hears and reacts to. That was a Day 1 priority for Biden. Once he canceled it, the global market for oil guessed that less petroleum would be forthcoming from North America. Markets are forward-looking. Telegraph a tightening of production and prices go up. . . . "
     
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