The complete story of the illegal coup plot by Donald Trump

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    The Trump conspiracy went far beyond January 6.

    It started in September of 2020 when he was asked more than once if he would commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he lost, and he refused to commit.

    From beginning in September 2020 until 1/6, 2021, the complete story of the coup attempt

    "we have several paths to victory, we control them all" Don Jr.

    was that just bluster, or an admission of the several paths to the coup plot?

    This is explored.

    The coup conspiracy had several paths, and Trump, with co-conspirators, tried them all, all failed.

    The lawsuits, 60+ were legal, they all failed.
    The fake electors, they became illegal when continued passed the lawsuits.
    The scheme to get Pence to delay the certification sufficient to throw the election to the house.
    Seizing voting machines. etc
    The 1/6 event.
    Sabotage the 1/6 event.

    "Dr Eastman and President Trump's plan to disrupt the Joint Sesion was fully formed and
    actionable as early as December 7, 2020"
    --federal judge David O. Carter

    At least six of the plots involve crimes.

    Etc..

    Ari Melber, the host, will write a full report which will be appended to the report due out soon by the 1/6 committee.

     
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    I wish Trump would just go away, he is like a cancer eating at the soul of this nation - how the right can support this man is beyond me
     
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  3. Blinda Vaganto

    Blinda Vaganto Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't know if there was election fraud in 2020 but at least if true it's a crime. Democrats have opened a criminal investigation against Trump for collusion which is not a crime at all.
     
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    Nothing like some good conspiracy theories to start out the morning.
     
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    True; investigating someone for colluding to commit a crime ... is not a crime; colluding to commit a crime is a crime.
     
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    Blinda Vaganto Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is no such crime as collusion with a foreign power to win elections. What Trump has been accused of is not a crime even if it was exactly what he did.
     
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    Colluding to illegally overturn an election IS a crime; which is what the OP is about.

    But to your point:
    FEC Chair: It's Illegal To Accept Election Help From Foreign Governments
    The head of the Federal Election Commission sent out a timely warning to politicians on Thursday, reminding them that it’s illegal to accept information from a foreign national linked to an election in the U.S.
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fec-...oreign-governments_n_5d02da4de4b0304a120c90eb

    Which the 2016 tRaitor tRump campaign did, also.
     
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    Why is he referring to a letter from Adams to Jefferson? What is the law against this?
     
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    52 U.S.C. § 30121(a)(1)(A)

    52 U.S.C. § 30121(a)(2).
     
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    Melber is very methodical in explaining all the facets of the failed coup. Things like this, granular examinations of fact, are what causes The Following to have a meltdown.
     
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    The word collusion anywhere? I see words like contribution, donation, money...
     
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    The video exposes several crimes, which is being investigated by 1/6 and the DOJ
     
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    Withholding congressional appropriated funds to Ukraine designated for their war effort in order to achieve a favor from Ukraine whose purpose is who aid in Trump's reelection campaign is an abuse of power. It's tantamount to using the full power of government for personal gain.

    He wasn't indicted for it, he was impeached for it, and rightfully so.

    However, the OP is about the conspiracy to overturn the election.
     
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    Collusion is just a pop friendly term for 'conspiracy', which IS a crime.
     
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    You're conflating the talking point associated with the Mueller probe with Trump's multiple violations of law having to do with the failed coup.
     
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    When conspiracy is documented, corroborated, videod and photographed, it is no longer a 'theory', it is a legal 'case'.
     
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    With some help from the DOJ, maybe he will be incarcerated.
     
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    usually people in power have shame and disappear when caught, Trump has no shame, it's sad to watch

    but his supporters do not care is the real issue
     
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    The election deniers spread the Russia collusion delusion conspiracy theory for 4 years. And still zero indictments.
     
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    Yeah, you do wish that, because he's the biggest threat to the Left's agenda to come along in decades.
     
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    If he's found guilty of a crime, of course?
     
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    There were eight indictments and convictions.

    there were no election deniers, on the whole, though " some " questioned the legitimacy of Trump's winning the presidency without the popular vote, and that's a sentiment, but in the end, everyone accepted that Trump won the election. A true election denier is the kind that goes on and on and on, at rallies, and declares he 'won the election' and the opposition stole it. No one but Trump and his surrogates did that. Hillary bitched for a while but she did concede, which Trump did not.

    There was sufficient predication for the Mueller Special Counsel, who was appointed by Rosenberg, a Republican, noting that Mueller, was a Republican as well. Rosenberg appointed a Special Counsel to either prove the prevailing suspicions (noting that given the voluminous contacts to Russia by Trump's campaign, were justified) or clear the air, noting that in any investigation, either outcome is a successful investigation.
     
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    Of course.
     
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    What are they waiting on, then? If all this evidence exists, we should already have an indictment and be in the trial phase, if not the sentencing phase, by now.
     
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    Ok...just checking...lol
     

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