The creeping fascism of Donald Trump

Better to call a fire drill if you smell it, though you can't 'prove it' than not to. If you are wrong, all you do is employ some firemen who don't mind it.

If you don't, and you fail to call it and there is a fire, the delay could cause people to die whose lives might have been saved in the critical time difference.

In short, it's better to err on the side of caution, than the side of mediocrity.

 

You don't smell it - you WANT to smell it.

GSIH

 

Quoting Mittens does not give the OP credibility. Isn't there an anonymous source from the NY Times you can quote?

 

I don't recall anyone having a problem with Obama firing IGs....http://www.nbcnews.com/id/31325894/...es-americorps-inspector-general/#.XsQtbURKjZY

 

I demand, all the time, that people back up their claims, and i gave one incidence, and a path of logic, to that end. I noted that to fully make the case, in this particular claim, it would take up an entire book, which is why I referenced said book. The only 'fail' is your failure to consider my premise. Let's read the book, and find out what it says. It has a bold title, and many pages devoted to support the title. Let's take a look.

 

Obama was a socialism - an "-ism" where it is OK to use authoritarian power for political ends.

 

I see.
So, why haven't you demonstrated Trump acted with the motive you assigned, after being asked to do so, repeatedly?
Hint: "Look it up" or "I could but it takes too much time" doesn't fit the bill.

 

You are implying sources in the NYT are 'anonymous'. More often, they are not anonymous to the reporter What many on the right do, is conflate 'anonymous' with 'anonymous to the public, but not the reporter' ( which is what they are often required to do, or there would be a lot less reportage of relevant news ).

 

From the link:

Trump stated on TV, that (paraphrased) "he didn't know who Rick Bright was, never heard of him, he only fired him because Pompeo asked him to do it".

It's not the idea of firing anyone that is problematic, it's that the act is done nonchalantly, cavalierly, without much forethought and consideration of all the facts, and the very little effort Trump puts into firing people, that he'll do it on the thinnest of evidence, on a whim, by just about anyone in his circle who whispers innuendo into his ear, a trait compatible with dictators and demagogues:.

To wit:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rec...e-dinner-ukraine-ambassador/story?id=68506437

This is what I'm talking about.

 

He's brought in his own swamp! And he refills it frequently with more creepy crawlies!

 

Did you just move the goalpost from away from Trump fired the IGs "Because he or his staff members don't like oversight"?
Yes, yes you did.

 

Why would he ask him to fire Rick Bright? Rick Bright wasn't a IG, nor had anything to do with State.

How do you know a lot of people didn't put thought into and let the President know, and the President did what his experts wanted?

He wanted the Ukraine Amb fired? Ok....he can do that...she was running counter to his goals in Ukraine. He sets foreign policy...she doesn't....moreover she wasn't removed from that position for sometime after that convo...so there was a lot of thought put into it...

 

Mitt Romney might as well join the "Squad"!

 

You are entitled to an opinion.

 

Hmm. Obama fired an IG who was investigating one of his donors. Did he not like oversight too?

Ha!

 

Obama was a socialist - an "-ism" where it is OK to use authoritarian power for political ends.

 

Was?????....He still is and he is doing Creepy Joe's bidding while Biden is in Hiden'! Of course they are all on that ideology bandwagon. No where else to go!

 

It's OK. I never expected you to give me an actual, direct answer to my question. All this talk about direction and so forth really make the point that Trump hasn't actually done anything unlawful or "fascist".

By the way, when Obama fired an IG who was investigating a donor, was that in the "direction" of fascism? Also when Obama created the DACA program out of thin air, was that an example of "a breakdown on the rule of law?"

Relax, it's not like you can actually give me an answer...

 

Totally absurd.

 

I agree. Our so-called President is childish and absurd.

 

Sorry no that would be your assessment of the man and his actions.

 

An adult's assessment, yes. Though I think it is generous to call him a "man." Emotionally and intellectually speaking, he's at best a child.

 

Well now, you have a point there. Why is he doing this?
I've always held that Republican presidents are beholden to certain big money power players. GS would qualify for that.

But those of you who believe it's not ALSO the Democrats,....well you've been duped royally.

I'll say it again.....it's them (the powerful and elite).......vs........all the rest of us.

 

The left loved NewYork democrat...... Donald J trump.......

Right up until the point he decided he didn't agree with everything they said and did.

 

Progressives are painfully aware of our neoliberal dem brethen, and we criticize them for it.
But they are closer to us than repubs, and there are only two groups with a caucus big enough to affect change.
No one is duped, we walk a path where there is no other viable path. We see Biden as a stepping stone.