The Dark Past of the Clintons and 2016

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  1. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    It's pretty much well-established that Bill Clinton's past is questionable at best. For example, Juanita Broaddrick accuses him of raping her twice while savagely biting her upper lip.

    [video=youtube;EWrlZ_WbjF8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWrlZ_WbjF8[/video]

    What is not "well-established" is Hillary Clinton's role in all this. She is portrayed as some kind of victim to Bill's promiscuity, an innocent bystander, but is that really the case? The same Juanita Broaddrick who says Bill Clinton raped her also says that Hillary Clinton attempted to intimidate her into silence after the fact at a political rally in 1978:

    As soon as you entered the room, you came directly to me and grabbed my hand. Do you remember how you thanked me, saying "we want to thank you for everything that you do for Bill". At that point, I was pretty shaken and started to walk off. Remember how you kept a tight grip on my hand and drew closer to me? You repeated your statement, but this time with a coldness and look that I have seen many times on television in the last eight years. You said, "Everything you do for Bill". You then released your grip and I said nothing and left the gathering.

    What did you mean, Hillary? Were you referring to my keeping quiet about the assault I had suffered at the hands of your husband only two weeks before? Were you warning me to continue to keep quiet? We both know the answer to that question.

    --AN OPEN LETTER TO HILLARY CLINTON BY JUANITA BROADDRICK

    Intimidating a rape victim into silence? Of course, this didn't stop her from being elected in New York, nor has it stopped her from being the presumptive nominee for her political party, but is that because the allegations lack truth, or because the Clintons are cover-up artists with powerful allies in the mainstream media? Seems to me all of this dark and seedy behavior should be looked into come 2016. Bill Clinton went through the shredder because he was the President when all this was happening. Hillary was treated with kid gloves and portrayed as a victim, but now that she's running for President, it's time to reevaluate that narrative and to subject her past to a true and extensive vetting, as no doubt her opponents will be.
     
  2. Idealistic Smecher

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    I don't know about the rape but the Clintons definetly have an open relationship.

    [video=youtube;lwXE52e9JFg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwXE52e9JFg[/video]

    Look at 4:50.
     
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    s soon as you entered the room, you came directly to me and grabbed my hand. Do you remember how you thanked me, saying "we want to thank you for everything that you do for Bill". At that point, I was pretty shaken and started to walk off. Remember how you kept a tight grip on my hand and drew closer to me? You repeated your statement, but this time with a coldness and look that I have seen many times on television in the last eight years. You said, "Everything you do for Bill". You then released your grip and I said nothing and left the gathering.

    What did you mean, Hillary? Were you referring to my keeping quiet about the assault I had suffered at the hands of your husband only two weeks before? Were you warning me to continue to keep quiet? We both know the answer to that question.
    --AN OPEN LETTER TO HILLARY CLINTON BY JUANITA BROADDRICK


    Yeah- that was pretty intimidating. Hilary Clinton shaking her hand and thanking her.

    Do you remember how you thanked me, saying "we want to thank you for everything that you do for Bill"

    I don't know whether or not Juanita Broderick was raped or not- I certainly am not going to cast aspersions.

    But her statement about Hilary doesn't sound threatening at all to me.

    Perhaps if I was there- but based upon Hilary's actual words, and her actual actions, as recounted by Ms. Broderick- I don't think Hilary has any reason to be concerned.
     
  4. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure you're right. Instead of really looking into whether or not she tried to cover-up a rape, the media will be checking Rand Paul's college papers for proper notations.
     
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    Here's the thing that get's Hillary off the hook for almost anything she might have actually done, the right wing noise machine has accused the Clintons of so much nonsense that any real offense would get buried in the pile of false accusations.
    Now the vast majority of these accusations are easily debunked, which means that the average rational person gets presented with a list of a thousand Clinton crimes, they look at the first one, obviously false, the check into the second one, definitely false, the third, the fourth, the fifth, they pick a few from the middle of the list, and none of them are even possible.
    So when you say "But what about accusation #839, Rape of Juanita Broderick" , and Hillary says "Not this crap again", the rational man moves on, because all you have is an accusation made by a group of confirmed liars, you don't have any evidence that comes from a believable source. It doesn't help your case that Juanita Broderick failed a lie detector test, did you know that? Or did your source withhold that, was your source not giving you the whole story?
     
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    The same "good ol' boy who cried wolf once too often" paradigm applies to the current President. The wacko birds obsessed far too long over their "birther" conspiracy in a silly attempt to delegitimate him, and the subsequent madrasa-indoctrinated, closet-Muslim, disciple of a radical Christian minister, covert socialist/communist, intimate-of-a 60's-radical-at-age-6 tirades merely drew howls of laughter or eye rolls, so Hillary Clinton strangling Vince Foster with her bare hands, etc. is now just the stuff of comedy.

    Contriving lurid pasts for opponents instead of finding and promoting one's own candidates is a losing tactic. That's why Democrats so seldom mentioned Willard Romney's keeping reptiles in his basement for immoral purposes.
     
  7. Ethereal

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    My source is Juanita Broadrick, and failing a lie detector test (if true, I don't see your source) is not dispositive. I based my judgment on credibility and motive. Who is more credible in your book? A middle class nurse or the career politician that has a history of dishonesty and sexual indiscretion? Seems obvious to me.

    What contrivance? Juanita Broadrick is a real person, last time I checked, and she seems quite sincere about her allegations. Not sure how she would benefit from being known as the woman Bill Clinton raped, but I can see how Hillary and Bill would benefit from trying to cover it up.
     
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    Well during the whitewater scandal (land pyramid scheme) Hillary's defense was that she simply did not know anything about it, yet she was the lawyer that wrote documents that where the tool used in the scam. How does a Harvard lawyer claim to not know about the content of a document that they themselves write?
     
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    I hope Hillary gets in trouble for voting for the Iraq War.
     
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    Pure unadulterated BS, except for that, you might have a valid point......
     
  11. justoneman

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    So are you unaware that Hillary was a Lawyer at the Rose Law firm? Are you unaware she was asked some 50 times if she remembered working on the Whitewater stuff in which she replied over and over that she could not recall. When asked to produce her billing records she could not find them. Two years later in the Whitehouse they "turned up" mysteriously when Vince Foster killed himself. The records showed she met 15 times with Seth Ward in Arkansas concerning Whitewater.

    Shes a liar.
     
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    I see you've got the wacko conspiracy theory thing going, good for you.
    I'm still stuck in reality, where the Clintons were among the victims of Whitewater, you know, investors who lost their investment.
    They were investors who lost their investment, you do believe that, don't you?
     
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    Again are you unaware that Hillary was a Lawyer at the Rose Law form?
     
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    Yeah, I knew that, are you aware of what Whitewater was?
    Are you aware of what the Special Prosecutor found?
     
  15. justoneman

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    Sure it was a series of loans and cash and assets moving around between several people to hide the money to avoid investigation. Hillary was providing legal assistance to Jim McDougal Her and Bill's partner. She was the lawyer potting it all together. Lucky for her she could not remember anything when she was under investigation and lucky for her the records all mysteriously went missing about her dealings as a Lawyer on the whole thing.

    The Special Prosecutor could not find any evidence of anything because Hillary removed all of the records about it at the law firm she worked for. These records were however discovered when Vince Foster shot himself in the White House and the police showed up to find the files in Hillary's possession.
     
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    Well Ken Starr went through those papers and only came up with Monica blowing Bill so don't hold your breath that anything will stick against Hillary via Whitewater. LOL
     
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    Do you also remember the part about no charges being brought against the Clintons, because there wasn't any evidence that they did anything wrong.
    Do you remember that part?
     
  18. justoneman

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    The McDougal's both refused to say anything under oath about Hillary or Bill. Susan McDougal went to jail for contempt of court for refusing to answer questions. Jim McDougal went to jail for several years and was pardoned by.. who else.. Bill Clinton.
     
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    Keep beating that dead horse.

    Hillary in a landslide in 2016. LOL
     
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    The pifflewits still don't seen to realize that frolicking about in their accustomed sewer is not how one wins elections.

    So what if Hillary Clinton dropped an 18 kilo block of lime Jello® from a four-storey building onto Vince Foster's head?

    You still need to find a credible alternative, or the American electorate will continue to regard such bellywhinging as they would a sparrow fart during an especially stirring recital of Donizetti's Una furtiva lagrima from his much beloved L'elisir d'amore.
     
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    I am sure she will be. She will be as much of a Socialist as Obama. She will promise the most free stuff to the most people. People now like this over free enterprise. She is a shoe in.
     
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    Dear Lord.

    Yeah Obama is such a socialist that the Dow is over 16K for the first time ever because the Fed is pumping $85 billion a month into the financial sector.

    Socialist, socialist, socialist......blah blah blah!!
     
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    As usual your memory and the facts ah...diverge..

    If you think this is coming back to haunt Hillary, you are crazy.
    There was nothing there then, and letting a whole lot of time pass isn't going to change that.
     
  24. justoneman

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    Taking tax money and pumping it into the economy is not free enterprise that is socialism. It is a lame ass way to prop up the stock market in an attempt to hide how aweful his economy is. He is afraid to stop doing it because he has done such a lousy job with the economy precisely because he is a Socialist and hasn't a clue about how a free market works.
     
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    Oh I am under no illusion that the media will ignore all of Hillary's past to help her on her way to the White House.


    OK now onto your claim that I have posted an untruth. What part of this statement is untrue?
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