The disconcerting truth is Don isn't the biggest problem we face......

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you believe global warming is being caused by man made carbon emissions? If you don't, opposition to Drumpf's environmental policies probably looks irrational. Do you think judges being nominated to the federal courts should be qualified for the position? If you don't opposition to Drumpf's nominees probably looks irrational. I could go on all day.
     
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    Yes, I think it is a factor, but not exclusively the cause. I also am realistic enough to understand that we cannot get off of fossil fuels until a new energy source can be implemented.

    But yes, I do think a person that is to be a fed judge should understand the law he is using to make decisions. Did he hire a plumber? Or an engineer to be a judge? But does one have to be a prior judge? Not IMO. We elect lawyers here to be circuit judges that send people to prison. I don't see how a lawyer who specializes in federal law instead of state law is not qualified to be a fed judge. It would really depend upon the man's record and intelligence, I would think.
     
  3. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, do you think opposition to his withdrawal from the Paris Accords, the EPA rolling back all manner of environmental regulations, and the promotion of the use of coal over renewable energy is irrational?

    Do you think it is irrational to oppose the nomination of lawyers for judgeships who have been unanimously ruled unqualified by the American Bar Association because of only having passed the bar two years ago and having no trial experience? Nominated because that person is married to your attorney's chief of staff?
     
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    Those are all great ideas. Coal mining is very cool. I love those 400 ton capacity dump trucks they use. Monstrously huge technological marvels.

    I care nothing for a bunch of damn windmills that slaughter birds.
     
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    So what you are telling us your cute "social experiment " by electing a community organizer, was not such a good Idea after all?
     
  7. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If I were you I wouldn't go down that road. You don't actually want to do a comparison of credentials between Drumpf and Obama do you?
     
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    Let's go for it, let's see if you can outdebate me.




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  9. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That comment isn't so much of a denial of science as it is ignorance of climate science specifically and the impact to the earth a few degrees can have.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, that's good. Because we might need another planet to live on at some point.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    we aren't talking a few we are talking one on a planet where on the the difference between the warmest spot and the coldest spot can easily exceed 200 degrees, and the diurnal range in some locations exceeds 40 degree in 24 hours. On top of that one of the methods of obtaining that average is more likely to yield anomalous highs than anomalous lows.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "The Paris Agreement, which delegates from 196 countries hammered out in December 2015, calls for holding the ongoing rise in global average temperature to “well below 2 °C above pre-industrial levels,” while “pursuing efforts to limit the temperature increase to 1.5 °C.” How much difference could that half-degree of wiggle room (or 0.9 degree on the Fahrenheit scale) possibly make in the real world? Quite a bit, it appears.

    The European Geosciences Union published a study in April 2016 that examined the impact of a 1.5 degree Celsius vs. a 2.0 C temperature increase by the end of the century, given what we know so far about how climate works. It found that the jump from 1.5 to 2 degrees—a third more of an increase—raises the impact by about that same fraction, very roughly, on most of the phenomena the study covered. Heat waves would last around a third longer, rain storms would be about a third more intense, the increase in sea level would be approximately that much higher and the percentage of tropical coral reefs at risk of severe degradation would be roughly that much greater.

    But in some cases, that extra increase in temperature makes things much more dire. At 1.5 C, the study found that tropical coral reefs stand a chance of adapting and reversing a portion of their die-off in the last half of the century. But at 2 C, the chance of recovery vanishes. Tropical corals are virtually wiped out by the year 2100."

    https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2458/why-a-half-degree-temperature-rise-is-a-big-deal/
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay. Let's begin with Obama's experience working in the inner city. I realize the "community organizer" meme gets used a lot by his detractors. Maybe you'd like to explain why you see it as a negative?
     
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    We know a fetus won't be born a lollipop


    We know a guy dressed up as a girl is still a guy



    Tell us what this thermometer reads?


    60 degrees?

    59.5 degrees?


    59 degrees?



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    Look at Obama's track record on foreign policy it was a night mare..the "constitutional scholar " was an idiot when it came to the constitution..*******n I know more about the constitution then he did and I am just a high school graduate (a few years of trade school) maintenance guy..
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One step at a time. We were going to discuss credentials.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Almost funny, but not analogous. You need to spend some time reading the science.
     
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    . . . and what science would that be?

    Steve
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Scroll up a bit and click the link from NASA. Or Google something like......"impact of one degree variance on climate change." There is a lot of scientific research available.
     
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    If you are talking about taking data of temperatures across the globe, that is analysis of data. That would be like comparing astrophysics to astrology, especially if temperature monitors aren't calibrated properly.

    Data can easily be manipulated, if not misinterpreted.

    Questioning science is what scientists do.

    Steve
     
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    First, the Paris Climate Accords, whatever bilge you've been fed about it and are all to willing to believe, has vastly more to do with expanding the bureaucracies control over your life than it does reversing the relatively miniscule increase in temperature over the last hundred years. For one thing they can't. And why can't they you might ask? Because truth be told they really don't have the first idea what's causing. CO2 is little more than a flat out guess, hell right now we aren't even sure if CO2 is a trailing or leading indicator of warming. Ice core samples simply aren't conclusive as some show one and some the other. On top of that there are other things that can cause warming at play. The problem of course is that the science still on is still in it's infancy.
     
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    How do you know from that how many are illegal, how many came when, and how many have been deported by Trump?
     
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    You mean a puppet of "the jews"?

    Why do white supremacists talk in code sometimes?
     
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    I don't have to know. My point was that there are 27 MILLION legal and illegal immigrants in our workforce NOW. They didn't come here in the last year.

    You evidently can't figure out that the 27 MILLION is 16.9-percent of our TOTAL WORKFORCE. How many citizens don't have a job because of it?

    Even worse is, your, mine, everyone's wages have been stagnant for years and that is one of the biggest reasons why.

    Steve
     

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