The emergence of our new authoritarian government

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  1. ButterBalls

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    LOL you didn't bother to look it up :nana:
     
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    Nope......
    But your post is an "earmark" of your indoctrination.

    Good little Lemming. :applause:
     
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    Is this your reaction :) Take it easy bro, the right on this site are vicious at making leftist cry.. Let this be a lesson next time ;)
     
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    How is relying on something in the US Constitution authoritarian?

    https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A2Sec3.html

    "on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper"

    Why are the Dems holding up important appointments during a time of crisis?
     
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    Don’t stop me now!
     
  6. StillBlue

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    It's the republican senate that confirms by a simple majority. Every single dem could be against someone and not be able to block him or her. Remember the last candidate for the Supreme Court? Ask republicans.
     
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    The issue is the pro forma sessions. He can't make recess appointments as long as that's going on...in either chamber
     
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    Keep chugging that koolaid
     
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    Again, only the Republican majority senate confirms. The House has nothing to do with the appointments. Now the house can have oversight committees watching how he spends the $1.5 trillion discretionary fund that he has fired the original inspector for no apparent reason other than he hasn't sworn an oath of fealty. I think there in lies where you'll find the truth.
     
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    If you can't see the correlations, you should change your user name. Just sayin'.

    :icon_clueless:
     
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    ... it is because you cannot demonstrate them.
     
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    Never have any of you types ever backed up your words. When cornered and asked to prove it, you resort to straw dogs, red herrings, and snark.
     
  13. EyesWideOpen

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    I'm sure as hell not expecting it from the left, and the Trump-haters. They are never anything but empty barrels.
     
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    I'm all for a free press, it's when the press is dishonest, deceitful and biased, that I object. And since this is a free country, when I see new reports that are full of BS, I can call them on it.
     
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    I judge my press by comparison. I'll compare the same story as printed by Fox, Bloomberg, BBC, NBC, CNN, MSNBC. I'll use a ratio score, the more networks that report the exact same thing, I'll trust, The one that doesn't agree with any one of them, I discard. Garbage in - garbage out.
     
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    So if all the like-minded, politically motivated news sources parrot each other, you are onboard with it? That is the definition of a sheeple.

    I prefer to seek out the truth, not follow the sheep off the cliff.
     
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    Only have a couple minutes to respond...

    The press are the ones who weakened and delegitimized themselves by lying for political gain...
     
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    You forgot to open your eyes wide!
     
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    What "political gain" would the press have?

    Nevermind, don't answer. I don't want to hear some other crackpot idea from the bowels of the far right.
     
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    What you're clearly expressing is that every news source that can be compared for accuracy is just 'parroting' each other despite the fact that these are Pulitzer Prize winning accredited journalists that are reporting these stories. You're saying that every journalist from every country in the world are saying the wrong things, all lies, because they're all out to 'get' Trump.

    Let's talk about what 'sheeple' really are. They are the small segment of the global population that refuses to accept facts. The 'sheeple' are those 45% or less die-hard Trumpers that only listen to Fox news and every other media outlet in the world is reporting lies. That's the true definition of 'sheeple'.
     
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    I want you to cite some examples of how every news media outlet who all reported the same story to which Fox reported just the opposite were lies. You give me one story and I'll give you many more in response and expect you to justify them. We'll walk down memory lane step by step as to how Fox and Trump have pushed the narrative about a 'deep-state' that's only out to take him down. We'll recall the numerous conspiracy theories drummed up by Fox and Trump in unison.

    You start. Please give me an example of how MSNBC, BBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, Bloomberg, and etc., have all amassed together to conjure up nothing but lies about Trump. I'll counter with the wild theories and fake news as reported by Fox Network. You go first, I'll catch up.
     
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    Are you kidding? Okay, I'll take that on, but remember, you asked for it! :mrgreen:
    1. Contempt for and fear of the free press, and constant efforts to weaken and de-legitimize it -- Does calling the press "the enemy of the people" ring a bell?
    2. Efforts to compromise and use the justice system, both the courts and the police, for personal advantage (protection from investigation and prosecution of his own malfeasance's and vendettas against perceived political enemies) -- Have you read the Mueller report? And are you not aware that at every turn, Trump is either suing or countersuing someone? Good grief, at least read this: https://www.americanprogress.org/is.../480659/trumps-politicization-justice-system/
    3. Aggressive disregard and/or undermining of other branches of government for the sake of one-man rule -- Absconding with mony that congress approved for military bases and hospitals and schools in order to fund his border wall ... you haven't heard about that? Again, at least read this: https://dailytitan.com/2019/10/president-trump-undermines-congress-political-agenda/
    4. Use of the military for personal political reasons -- Insisting that they stop over in Scotland and pay to stay at one of his properties, instead of the usual American base in Germany. Does not using the military count? How about holding them back on helping battle this pandemic until articles like this started coming out: https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...military-could-help-more-if-trump-ncna1167976 (Yeah, I'm a bit thin on this one, I admit. However, the fact that he doesn't misuse the military is because he probably knows this: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/11/military-officers-trump/598360/)
    5. Alliances with other authoritarian rulers around the world -- His love letters with Kim Jong Un; his ridiculous belief that muhammad Bin Salman had nothing to do with his closest security people butchering a reporter in Turkey; his friendships with the likes of Erdogan, Duterte, Orban, el-Sissi, and last but not least, dear old Vlad. What really sums it up for me is this quote: "I don't care. I believe Putin."
    6. Dismantling of alliances with democratic governments around the world -- His disparaging of NATO and it's members; his demand that the new Ukrainian president provide him with dirt on his personal political opponent (turns out he was right to fear Biden); his withdrawal from the Paris Agreement; his withdrawal from the Arms Trade Treaty of 2014 ... just to name a few of his moves to piss off our allies while codling our adversaries.
    7. Political exploitation of "lowest common denominator" nativist and racist divisions to gain and hold power -- :roflol: Now I know you're joking. Seriously? They way he won in the first place? The way scumbags like white nationalists and supremacists have all come out of their caves and started showing their true colors? The fact that his core base of avid supporters are mostly knuckle-dragging mouth breathers, and his favorite pasttime is holding rallies, throwing them red meat (fear this, hate this, blame these people) and visibly drinking in their cheers of praise? Good freakin' grief.
    8. Ruling by fear -- Administration staff who say anything counter to his statements of the day get fired and replaced with butt-kissing sycophants. Republican Senators are so afraid to say what they really think, or vote their consciences, that they go along with any reprehensible act he commits? Then they say stupid shyte like Susan Collins "I think he's learned his lesson." Congressional Republicans are so afraid of his normal backlash ... the nasty tweets, the threat of running someone to the right of Hitler in a primary against them ... making everyone on your staff or in the government so afraid of saying anything against him is the very definition of ruling by fear.
    9. Fostering notions that conflate the person of the ruler, rather than the office of head of government, with the nation -- For that, just look at the number of administration staff who are gone because their loyalty was to their country and the office of the presidency, and not the current occupant of that office. Let's list some of the more notable example: Comey, who wouldn't promise loyalty to Trump; McCabe, who made the monumental mistake of conducting an investigation into the links between Trump's campaign people and various Russian agents and operatives; Kelly, who tried for as long as he could take it to keep things in line at the White House; Neilsen, who failed to make him look good in spite of his caging of children at the border; Mulvaney, who was dumb enough to tell the truth right in front of the press; McMasters, who, like Kelly, was trying to serve his country and was therefore honest with Trump at every turn, can't have that; Fiona Hill, Tim Morrison, and Alexander Vindman ... how dare they tell congress the truth while under oath! (I could do this all day ...)
    10. Exploitation of the advantages of occupying the office of head of government for great personal monetary gain -- :roflol: Trump violates the emoluments clause of the constitution every day: every time a head of state pays to stay at one of his resorts in order to curry favor; every time we the people pay the exorbitant room rates at Mar-a-lago weekend after weekend; every time a Republican politician or a lobbyist pays to stay at one of his resorts, or holds events like birthday and anniversary parties at his venues in order to curry favor ... and so on, and so forth, ad naseum.
     
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    I did, and I did not see that OP provided any actual proof. Presenting a numbered list of rants is meaningless.
     
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    Apparently you didn't pay attention to the MSM during either the Kavanaugh hearings, during the impeachment or the Mueller investigation.

    All they did was parrot the lies coming out of congressional democrats..

    If you refute that comment then you have no sense of reality and that constitutes the end of our conversation.
     
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    Refer to post #47
     

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