The Emerging Religion of Wokeness

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  1. Jolly Penguin

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    That he is an American?
     
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    Yeah, the natural world can be shockingly brutal. Then again, were it not as it is (predator/prey), there would be no life as we know it.
     
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    From a secular perspective, perhaps, perhaps not. But if there is or was a creator God or Gods who are/were all powerful, then the above obviously isn't true.

    And it really does raise DRI's question.
     
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    Only if one sees fault in nature. I myself, don't. Even if I did, I wouldn't hold it or raise it against God. That said, I'm more concerned with conforming my will to Gods will, with the goal being my salvation, than I am with trying to understand everything beyond my comprehension before taking a step. But I am fortunate to have a starting point and firm foundation in that matter. It being that I know that God is real and that he lives. And that he is divine. So I am confident in that matter and all that it entails. I should say that it is by his mercy and charity that I am blessed with this establishment, as it is a vision opened to me from him, rather than of my own construct. One cannot truly imagine or conjure the divinity of God.
     
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    Parasitic wasps and guinea worm, etc are things you expect a good God would create?

    Why not? Did he outsource creation of the animals?
     
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    Because God is perfect and the misunderstanding and ignorance are mine. The rest of my post from which you quoted actually addresses your intent.
     
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    So God’s will is your salvation. Is it also his goal to see other people achieve this salvation or only you?
     
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    Everyone of course. But I can only speak for myself regarding my views and experience.
     
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    Is anything impossible for God?
     
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    I don't know what you're getting at, but I suppose some things are impossible for god. It would be impossible for him to fail, to lie or to break a promise, and so forth.
     
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    Ok so it’s impossible for him to fail. So if it is his goal that everyone achieves salvation, will everyone achieve salvation?
     
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    No, salvation requires our choice, participation, and obedience.
     
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    Oh fail. No wonder Jesus wept.
     
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    Those voting for Democrats never should be allowed to claim they are liberals.
    Take the constitution as an example. At the time, it was the most liberal document on this planet. We who want to keep it want to keep that liberal view alive. Liberal does not mean getting rid of the constitution nor it's promises of freedom.
    So all Democrats, please quit saying you are liberal.
    More proof is that since 1933 and FDR, the Democrats have been a bundle of energy creating laws. They took over the occupation.
    When we say law, they tell us yeah, you want to remove the law.
    Correct they are.
     
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    In the Garden you mean? He was aware he was leaving good friends.
     
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    I'm not from the USA, so I'm not a Democrat or Republican. Your politics are irrelevant to the OP.
     
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    That is why Democrats are not to be believed.

    To wit: "We Democrats are for blacks.
    We are for women.
    We are for health."

    But this means we must therefore be your ruler.
     
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    Don't you believe you are closest by far to one of the two parties in outlook?

    Try this. How close to being Republican do you believe you are?
     
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    Your politics is relevant to the OP.
     
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    We are definitely not raising a fuss over goodness of any group. We are raising a fuss against those who intend to rule our lives.
     
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    It is like myself, Seth, Crank and others who are actually liberals. But we do not accept wokeism. Why not? The aims of wokeism are not good for people.

    Trying to lump into the same ball all Christians is an unwise way to present posts.
     
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    By USA standards, I think I would be closest to being called a socially liberal libertarian.
     
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    Why the qualifiers?

    I have been found to be almost dead center. But not according to Democrats.
     
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    Trying to be as descriptive as possible. I don't think I would actually fully fit in any USA political party or ideology.
     
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    Why do you feel it is wrong to lump all Christians into the same Ball but you seem to be doing that about Democrats in every post.
     
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