The end of the world order as we know it

There is more than that that makes me not support him.

 

Biden.

He showed the world in how he got his ass handed to him in Afghanistan that he's confused and inept at leading. And every time he speaks publicly he proves that point.

There is a disconnect between intelligence and the top. The generals who are distracted by hunting down white rage are publicly disagreeing with his leadership. It's as I expected.

Biden is old, weak and confused.

 

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Oh .. I degree that Biden is early stage dimentia .. and never was that bright to begin with .. foot in mouth syndrom over the years .. but thats' not how things work .. our weakness is a function of decades of stupidity - horrible blunders on the geopolitical chessboard over decades...our foreign policy being dictated by economic interests .. of domestic and foreign intersts that don't give a rats tail about USA

Now if there were an economic interest that benefited the citizens - as the "Necessary Illusion" suggests .. that would be a different matter .. but our economic moves have been horrific .. Starting with outsourcing our manufacturing base

Dumb and dumber policy continues under Biden .. but was not Biden who took us to Iraq. Just from a pure objective perspective ---"Economic Interest" -- What has our "Return on investment" been from that sht show.. along with Afghanistan .. which about the only good thing that can be said about Brandon is that he ended that mess .. in the most messy way possible of course .. but he ended it .. or rather .. the folks whispering into his ear .. writing his telepromptor - ended it. but a minute pebble of sand in the grande scheme of things.

So .. to numbers - What has are ROI been.. how did that economic action go ? .. which is where we get into the dumb and dumber part of the equation. blunderfest on the geopolitical chessboard.

 

If Trump did not exist Mitch McConnell would have to invent him

 

And America as we knew it ......will be gone too ........if Donald makes a return

But that is what the trumpers seem to want. and your scenario will probably play out.

 

Trumpers are a small minority of Americans. They are not in control of themselves, let alone the future.

 

but if Trump resurfaces as POTUS........ the dynamic might change drastically. His persona has already affected America...........and the former Rep party. ( former........as t it is not the party it used to be-~~~

The divided state of the nation is making it vulnerable too.and that could lend itself to someone like Trump to make a comeback.......and we will see "tones" of authoritarianism. We did see shades f it during his first term.

A Lot will depend on the next four years ....... and if we all get some distance from trump. But that might not happen.........as he continues to stir up his following with rallies of more lies. and repeating the same ones ad nauseum.

 

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I think Trump will be in jail soon. Maybe before November of 2022, long before 2024
Whether that happens will be in the hands of the courts, not Trump's Congressional lapdogs, and I think the results will be different

 

You mean as he tells Biden that he won't do anything the stop a Russian "minor incursion" into Ukraine? Or his refusal to defend UKraine generally? THAT "bitch slapping"?

 

Or that he doesn't do anything to increase the tensions already present, and sticks to the truth?
Russia has not entered Ukrainian territory. (unless it happened in the last 10 hours ).
Ukraine has not been attacked or invaded .
Ukraine has asked for some military assistance IF it is necessary but has also NOT asked for troops . In fact it has said it can defend itself.

If Biden starts whipping up an already tense situation, not only will Putin have the excuse he needs to THEN cross the border, but it will immediately involve other countries which do NOT want to run another military action.
America has a history of rushing to arms (as mentioned elsewhere...VietNam, Korea, Afghanistan) and it has not worked out well.
I don't object to letting diplomacy run its course. So far no one has died, economies have continued to struggle back to life and there are solutions to be had.

 

Biden won't whip up anything. His cowardice was well demonstrated in Afghanistan. His invitation to Putin, that an "incursion" into the Ukraine is no big deal, is all that Biden will "whip up". Ukraine is Putin's for the taking. Next stop? Taiwan... The United States under Biden has traded in its weapons and force for "Strongly Worded Letters".

 

So if Biden "presents arms" and invades a free and sovereign country, not only is he breaking international law because technically he is declaring war on it, but he will cause the Ukrainian government to "take sides" in its own defence.
IOW if you want to protect both lives, economies and oil pipelines and keep a cushion between Russia and Europe, without which Russia would make further border incursions more likely , keep talking. (today Ukraine, tomorrow Poland) . Because if Putin ever threatened an ex Russian state like Poland, then you are talking full on Russian/NATO war. and I for one would go full on bunker.

I suspect your view of strength is seen as tanks, guns and planes.
IMO diplomacy and saving lives instead of sacrificing them takes more courage.

 

Are you suggesting that giving military aid to any nation constitutes an "invasion"? Huh? What?

By the way, Poland INVITED US FORCES in... even paid $2 Billion for the infrastructure to support our forces (barracks, training areas, etc)

Oh, nd another, btw, we already have US Forces in Ukraine. The 53rd (Infantry) Brigade Combat Team deployed to Ukraine in November.

 

I am talking about crossing into Ukraine.
I have no issue with helping Ukraine "tool up" to fight its own battles.

My concern is based on the "defending Ukraine GENERALLY.
I am not clear what that means.

 

First of all Biden should have the courage to go against the war mongers in Washington, and stop their lies and demonizing of Russia in the media and start presenting the truth to the American people. Then he should pressure Ukraine to follow through on the Minsk II agreement which they had signed together with the leaders of Donetsk and Lugansk and which was passed by the UN.

After the US has proved its trust worthiness to Russia and the world, and that it will stop its non-ending wars and regime changes, then they should take Russia's legitimate security concerns into account and start a disarmament program in Europe.

I'm dreaming, aren't I?

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Ah yes dreamland,

if it could only be,
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that what we're told and what we see

is based on reality.​

Without the lies to pressure us

into conformity,
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to spiteful men who have no soul

and hate humanity.

- Jeannette​

 

So, ignore Russian lies and brainwash Americans like Russia. Awesome solution!

 

They are welcome to it. What has US policing accomplished except dead soldiers and soaring deficits?

 

It’s accomplished a robust economy. If you think your standard of living and security will remain the same with a shrunken presence and defending of free nations you may as well go live in a fantasy land.

 

Well, you can follow the playbook of the globalists. I don't think they have the best interests of the nation in mind.

 

It has not been globalist foreign policy but US foreign policy exclusively and foreign globalists have not been too keen on it. We do it to advance our agenda, not theirs.

Having said, that, I think its time to scale it down big time.

 

Exactly correct. Imagine how the USA would react if Russia or China installed military bases around the planet including in Mexico or Canada and then ranted about not them but the USA being the aggressor.

The hypocrisy of the USA is mind-blowing sometimes.

 

Trump came across as unhinged. That is scary when in charge of the biggest military on the planet. There is a weird strength to that.

 

He used great restraint in keeping us out of a war with Iran.

He improved relations with North Korea.

He helped negotiate 4 peace agreements and was nominated for a Nobel peace prize and so was Jared Kushner.

Amazing how facts matter more than emotion.

 

Regardless of his accomplishments, he came across as unhinged to other nations around the world and that did being a certain fear with it which can be seen as a weird sort of strength. That exists regardless of if he actually was/is unhinged. It may have even been a deliberate strategy.

As for the peace prize, didn't Obama also get that, before he even did anything? Seems like this "prize" is more about politics than merit.