The Enemies Among Us

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  1. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right. The responsible people who go to work, pay taxes, and expect nothing in return. They are the problem, not the leeches that live off them.
     
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    Actually it does, doesn't it?
    That's what I get when I round down.
     
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    You think the gun violence is senseless? I think it makes perfect sense. You leftists have sowed irresponsibility and torn the nuclear family apart with your fiscal and social policies for going on 80 years now.

    The result? Darwin is extremely busy. Dysfunction is found everywhere.

    Liberalism is to blame, and it makes all the sense in the world.
     
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    DarkDaimon Well-Known Member

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    And yet some of the most liberal countries in the world like Sweden and Denmark have much lower gun violence than the U.S.. Funny how that works.
     
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    Much lower minority populations than the US, which I who are responsible for the overwhelming majority of our gun violence.
    Funny how that works.
     
  6. Ronstar

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    so its better that we let Right-Wing Fascist Republican Nazis give guns to the mentally ill and felons?
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please cite that happening.

    everyone is hitler.jpg
     
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    Yes especially when they don't have all kinds of Gangs, Gang Organizations. Imagine that.
     
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    Try H.J.Res.40 for starters.
     
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    If this was such a big issue then, why were we arming (in conjunction with Saud, Qatar and others) Islamist Jihadists (including the group that actually did 911 - Al Qaeda/Al Nusra, ISIS, Islamic Front) in Syria - giving them sophisticated technology such as stinger missiles ?

    Arming these Jihadists led to the worst humanitarian crisis so far this decade (500,000 killed and counting), the modern incarnation of ISIS, and .... da da daaaa the refugee crisis - spreading the Islamist Jihadist plague further over the world.

    Riddle me that one .... How is this not the colossal fk up of all fk ups ??
     
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    I agree with you opinion, however I question why you did not include the Obama administration within your piece. The coup d' etat of Libya and the transshipping of it's fallen Army's weaponry through Qatar and Turkey. That is why Ambassador Stevens and 3 others were killed. Then there's the simple fact that Obama 's CIA was responsible for the training of the very same people you mentioned along with supplying them with 'Stinger' and 'TOW' missiles.
     
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    ... it's just more of the law of unintended consequences.
     
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    It is so hard to explain to people how you really have to ingest news properly now days.

    In order to understand a story, I will want to go on forums and talk about it to see other opinions, as well as see several instances of it reported from many different sides. When a story is only covered by one side of the media it is almost 100% overblown by the partisanship of that side.
     
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    Others' opinions do not influence me. I make up my own mind.

    More and better facts is what I always look for in confirmation and additional sources.
     
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    Trumpers love their fake news. And look at the long-term damage their fake president is about to cause.
     
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    My Bad ... and I even thought about that during the writing of the post and didn't thinking this would do without saying.

    Of course Trump does not have any responsibility for arming of terrorists in Syria in late 2011 and onward, nor is he responsible for creation of the "moderate rebel lie". This is Obama's doing.

    My main point was that it is a bit nonsensical to complain about the "Enemies among us" when Obama was arming these enemies - and the action of arming these enemies created the refugee crisis - and because of this refugee crisis more of these enemies are being let in "among us".

    That said - Trump is now aware of what Obama (and the CIA and Pentagon and DOD) did and he has not done anything about addressing this problem. Which to some degree I understand as this is almost akin to running against a herd of stampeding bulls.

    At the very least - he should be straitening out the language - "radical Islamists" instead of "radical Islam"
    explaining what an "Islamist" is - someone who hates individual rights and freedoms - and using this language to influence or immigration policy.

    He should also be calling out the Saud for their extremist Islamist ideology and for their exporting of this extremist ideology all over the globe and supporting groups that share this ideology- Taliban, Al Qaeda/Al Nusra, ISIS, Boko Haram, Al Shabaab .. and others.

    Sanctions on Russia for messing with our elections ? Give me a break. How about sanctions on Saud !! for being the number one state sponsor and root cause of the majority of terrorism all over the world.
     
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    "That remains open to discussion since we know that Obama spoke highly of the Arab Spring and "Operation Zero Footprint".
    From Hillary interviews we also know the White House liaison for Secretary Clinton and CIA Director Leon Panetta
    during Operation Zero Footprint was National Security Advisor To the President, Tom Donilon.
    With this information we can assemble a cast of people “IN THE KNOW” of Operation Zero Footprint on two specific date blocks. March 2011 through Pre 9/11/12 attack – and – Post 9/11/12 attack forward".


    March 2011 through Pre 9/11/12 attack: Who knew of Operation “Zero Footprint”?:
    • President Obama and Vice President Biden (both Dems)
    • Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (Dem)
    • CIA Director Leon Panetta (March 2011 – June 2011)
    • *CIA Director General David Petraeus (?) (Sept 2011 – Nov 2012)
    • NATO Commander, James G Stavridis
    • White House National Security Advisor Tom Donilon (Dem)
    • White House National Security Spox Tommy Vietor (Donilon aide)
    • White House National Security Advisor John Brennan (Dem)
    • Speaker of the House John Boehner (Rep)
    • Minority Leader – Nancy Pelosi (Dem)
    • House Permanent Select Committee on Intel Chairman – Mike Rogers (Rep)
    • Minority House Intel Committee – Charles Ruppersberger (Dem)
    • Senate Minority Leader – Mitch McConnell (Rep)
    • Senate Majority Leader – Harry Reid (Dem)
    • Senate Intel Chair – Diane Feinstein (Dem)
    • Minority Senate Intel Committee – Saxby Chambliss (Rep)
    • [State Dept] U.S. Libyan Ambassador – Chris Stevens
    • [State Dept] U.S. Asst Secretary of State – Andrew Shapiro
    • [State Dept] Senior Head of U.S. Weapons Office – Mark Adams
    "Along with whomever inside each nation’s state government that was involved in either the finance (UAE), or the logistics (Qatar). and later, 2012 Turkey".
     
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    The Arab Spring was optimistic at first.

    It has since turned into an anti Western anti Israel disaster.
     
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    While I didn't mention that fact that Obama did nothing, absolutely nothing to help the Iranian citizens when they revolted against the Ayatollah's regime.

    Why Obama Let Iran's Green Revolution Fail - Bloomberg View
    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-08-24/why-obama-let...
    Aug 24, 2016 · Why Obama Let Iran's Green Revolution Fail. ... of Iranians were risking their lives to ... in nonviolent resistance against their ...
    Obama "feared the demonstrations would sabotage his secret outreach to Iran. In his new book, "The Iran Wars," Wall Street Journal reporter Jay Solomon uncovers new details on how far Obama went to avoid helping Iran's green movement. Behind the scenes, Obama overruled advisers who wanted to do what America had done at similar transitions from dictatorship to democracy, and signal America's support".​
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    Here is what's funny--the government constantly asks us to "see something, say something".

    Then, when conscientious men like Kiriakou, Drake, Binney, Wright and Snowden and others do in fact see something the government is doing wrong, and say something about the government's wrong doing, they are prosecuted by the government.

    So the end result is that the government wants the citizens to rat each other out, to tell on each other. BUT DON'T TELL ON THE GOVERNMENT.
     
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    What happens when "a threat" is described by the government or others, and upon close examination it can be seen it is no threat whatsoever? What happens when those elected leaders engage in fear-mongering and fraud?
     
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    Nothing has happened to Al Gore to this point.
     
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    Trump demanded that Comey swear loyalty to him. Not to the Constitution.

    that makes Trump an ENEMY.
     
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    :rolleyes:
     
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    Sure. And that's why laptops may be banned from all Air Travel. Too dangerous to carry on, too dangerous to even check in your luggage, because this real concern over attacks by Jihadists is all made up!

    It looks as if laptop computers and tablet devices may be the Achilles heel of commercial aviation anti-terrorism efforts. Business travelers need their computers while in flight, especially on those intercontinental flights that can last ten or more hours. Keep in mind that business travelers pay the highest fares, because they often can't plan ahead for deep discounts, and because they need to be able to change their plans at the last minute.

    The front cabin travelers, whose tickets run well into the thousands on intercontinental flights, justify all that expense by claiming that they need the extra space to be able to work while in flight. For most airlines, especially the intercontinental operations, the front of the cabin counts the most, while the coach tickets are more of an auxiliary source of revenue, one that varies a lot by seasonal supply and demand.

    The business travelers in both cabins are by far the most important, most prized market of the major airlines. And they are going to be very unhappy about the spread of bans on laptops in the cabins of airliners.

    Laptops and tablets have been banned in March from the cabins of airliners departing for the U.S. from ten Middle Eastern and North African destinations, following a raid that showed that laptop battery-substitute bombs were available to terrorists.

    The Department of Homeland Security plans to ban laptops in the cabins of all flights from Europe to the United States.

    DHS admits that the ban is under consideration but will not confirm anything more. But if the laptop bomb technology is undetectable by airport security, then we can expect that the information and bomb-building capability will spread to Europe, which not so incidentally has just received hundreds of thousands of "refugees" from areas controlled by ISIS. It would seem that a laptop ban on flights from Europe to the U.S. is ahead.

    But bad as it would be for business travelers to lose access to their laptops while on board, that is nothing compared to the danger that laptops might have to be banned from the checked luggage as well. And it turns out that those powerful lithium-ion batteries used by laptops can and do catch fire, even in airline cargo holds:

    The FAA recorded 33 incidents in 2016 of personal electronic devices carried into cabins by passengers causing fire emergencies during flights, according to an FAA document reviewed by The Daily Beast. Of these, three were in laptops and two in tablets.

    Two of the most serious were on Delta flights and both involved laptops.

    On January 15, 2016 on a flight from Minneapolis to Atlanta fire broke out in a bag in an overhead bin shortly before landing. The smoke in the cabin became so overwhelming that when the flight reached the gate, passengers opened emergency exits over the wings and staff on the ramp helped them escape directly from the wings.

    Flight attendants used halon fire suppressant extinguishers and water extinguishers to put out the fire, which had originated in two laptops.

    On December 3, 2016 fire broke out in an overhead bin on a flight from Honolulu to Atlanta. Cabin crew needed three halon extinguishers and two water extinguishers to put out a fire originating in a laptop. For the rest of the flight the laptop was placed in a cooler with ice and monitored.

    The FAA stressed that the 33 incidents are only ones that they are aware of. "This should not be considered as a complete listing of all such incidents…nor do they include all investigative and enforcement actions taken," the documented stated.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog...security_may_no_longer_mix.html#ixzz4gt72ix1i

    And to think some clowns think the "real danger" is Trump voting rednecks from the Holler.

    The Delusion in STRONG in some folks!
     

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