The FBI Foils Their Own Terror Plot... Again.

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  1. hoytmonger

    hoytmonger New Member

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    They seem to have no problem finding Muslims in American mosques willing to murder their fellow Americans especially the Jewish ones.





    "For more than a year, Amine El Khalifi, of Alexandria, considered attacking targets including a synagogue, an Alexandria building with military offices and a Washington restaurant frequented by military officials, authorities said. When arrested a few blocks from the Capitol around lunchtime on Friday, he was carrying what he believed to be a loaded automatic weapon and a suicide vest ready for detonation."


    Khalifi arrived in the United States when he was 16 and was living as an illegal immigrant in Northern Virginia, having overstayed his visitor’s visa for years, officials said. In 2010, he was evicted from an Arlington apartment after having failed to pay rent.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...itol/2012/02/17/gIQAtYZ7JR_story.html?hpid=z1


    Why, over ten years after 9/11, are we still allowing immigration from Muslim countries?



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  3. paco

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    Oh, that poor, poor, Muslim terrorist. Just another victim of an FBI plot. :no:
     
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    No worries Paco, Obama closed Gitmo upon taking office like he promised the entire Left-wing of the US.


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  5. hoytmonger

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    Entrapment is just the American way. The FBI has to justify it's existence and the existence of unconstitutional laws like the PA and NDAA, so they drum up plots to keep the citizenry scared of the big bad terrorists hiding under your bed.

    It's propaganda.
     
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    You throw around words and concepts like you knew what they actually meant. And it's obvious you don't.
    A key element of entrapment is coaxing someone, who otherwise and ordinarily would not be likely to commit a crime, to strap on a suicide vest.

    Khalifi believed he was doing his "holy" work for Al Qaeda and he expressed interests in blowing up a number of targets (and people). Gee, where have we heard before about young disaffected Muslim men trying to murder those around him? Oh, that's right...all over the place.
     
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    That defense doesn't seem to be working with judges and juries.
    It's probably the statements on tape........;)

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    Good on them. Nothing like extracting these Islamic thugs from our society before they can harm Americans.
     
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    What led the suspect to believe he was doing "allah's work?"

    The gun and vest were provided not by al-Qaeda, as Khalifi had been told, but by undercover FBI agents who rendered them inoperable, authorities said.


    As is the same in EVERY other "terrorist attack" in the US with the possible exception of Sept.11, 2001... but I'm beginning to have doubts that the government wasn't somehow behind that as well.

    The FBI has in recent years used trained informants not just to snitch on suspected terrorists, but to set them up from the get-go. A recent report put together by Mother Jones and the Investigative Reporting Program at the University of California-Berkley analyses some striking statistics about the role of FBI informants in terrorism cases that the Bureau has targeted in the decade since the September 11 attacks.

    The report reveals that the FBI regularly infiltrates communities where they suspect terrorist-minded individuals to be engaging with others. Regardless of their intentions, agents are sent in to converse within the community, find suspects that could potentially carry out “lone wolf” attacks and then, more or less, encourage them to do so. By providing weaponry, funds and a plan, FBI-directed agents will encourage otherwise-unwilling participants to plot out terrorist attacks, only to bust them before any events fully materialize.

    "The problem with the cases we're talking about is that defendants would not have done anything if not kicked in the ass by government agents,"


    http://lewrockwell.com/rep2/fbi-behind-most-us-terror-plots.html

    The FBI is complicit.

    Can you say railroaded?
     
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    Guys... like it or not... this is entrapment. They are creating boogiemen to justify the seizure of our freedoms.
     
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    They led him to commit an offense that he would otherwise have been unlikely to commit? I call bs. This creature had every intent to kill Americans.
     
  12. Yosh Shmenge

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    The mind set of a jihadist, I assume. Are you contending the FBI turned this guy into a Muslim suicide bomber? Because that's a real leap of faith at this point. There is no evidence of that.

    So Khalifi believed he was being supported materially by Al Qaeda? How does that help his case? It shows a willingness to be a pawn of Al Qaeda and a belief in suicide bombing.
    I suppose the FBI also provided him with the names of 72 virgins he is to contact in his martyred afterlife? :roll:


    I've underlined the key flaw in all this blather. This is a contention that is impossible to prove and it seems absurd on the face of it.
    If material support (supposedly from Al Qaeda) is all it takes to get these jihadists to strap on their suicide vests then there isn't a hint of entrapment here. The FBI is merely assisting these killers, ostensibly, in doing what they want to do, and would do given real Al Qaeda support, in the first place.


    In what? Removing scum from the gene pool?

    Yeah...:roll:. Those poor guys! All they wanted to do was bomb a synagogue or some other public place for the glory of jihad and it turns out the FBI was stringing them along. Boo frickin' hoo! Why not waste your sympathy on something other than the lowest people on earth?
     
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    How is it entrapment to convince you to commit a terrorist act? You either go by your own morals, do it or don't. Do you care about human lives, or don't you?
     
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    Dude. He came to them. Not the other way around.

    Calling this entrapment is like saying all sting operations are entrapment. They aren't.
     
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    Entrapment is being like a used car salesman, convincing an otherwise innocent person to commit a crime. This is different. A criminal Jihadist, hellbent on killing any Americans, and as many Americans as possible and was merely provided with the "supplies" and his efforts were intercepted.

    GOOD JOB FBI.
     
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    All evidence leads to the suspect being set up by the FBI... just as in EVERY case of "terrorism" in the US since... and some before... Sept. 11, 2001.

    You're buying into the authoritarian hype created by the government in order to keep it's illegal wars funded and citizens scared.

    Just remember... the government can make you a terrorist if it chooses to, then ship you off without a trial for an indefinite period or just assassinate you.

    In Nazi Germany it was Jews, in the current US it's Muslims.
     
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    So when the FBI helps you "plot" against the United States and innocent civilians, it is the fault of the FBI and not the fault of your own deranged ambitions? Do you blame the government for being so fat, too?
     
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    No kidding. Is this the kind of freedom he wants to legalize? Freedom to blow up women and children and clean up the mess? No thanks. If we can prevent it, WE THE PEOPLE WILL DO JUST THAT.
     
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    It's good to see that most people understand the issue and aren't as dumb as the thread premise would seem to be.

    Some jihadist scum wants to blow up Americans and the FBI makes him believe they are Al Qaeda there to help him do it.
    At no point did this Moroccan piece of crap back out, change his mind, decide he really didn't want to blow people up, etc.
    He strapped the vest on his own body. If he truly believed that FBI agents were from Al Qaeda and there to help him, so much the better (when it comes to convicting this guy).

    Leave it to lefties to exonerate the criminal and blame the FBI.
     
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    They discovered a practitoneer of the religion of peace who willing to attack Americans and become a martyr for Allah. This has been going on for over a year, he had many chances to back out, but decided to go ahead. Because Islam is all about death toll and murder and mayhem and misery. Islam and their leftist enablers suck.
     
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    Right, the guy was an illegal alien, lost his job, was evicted from his apartment and was likely pissed off at the world. The FBI came to him posing as Al-Qaeda and recruited him, then trained him in surveillance techniques, "armed" him and set him out to destroy something.

    The FBI supposedly had the guy "under surveillance" for some time, being the guy was illegal to begin with, they could've just deported him if he were such a threat. The FBI wanted another "bust" to keep the anti-terror fever rolling and get PrezBO some more re-election points.
     
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    Oh....really?? I haven't seen that evidence and you haven't provided it to anyone in any case.
    If by being "set up" you mean the FBI convinced this miscreant they were from Al Qaeda and were there to help him achieve the goals he himself had, then I couldn't disagree more.

    And you are being a paranoid scare monger if you think stopping this one Moroccan hammer head from carrying out jihad is part of some vast government conspiracy.
    Speaking of boogiemen, you obviously have a need to create some of your own and it's called projection.

    That is a legitimate fear that you yourself cheapen and drain of meaning by bringing up this Khalifi case in connection with that fear. Congratulations, Chicken Little!

    Riiight! More paranoid scare mongering. More wildly inappropriate and stupid comparisons.
     
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    What's that bull(*)(*)(*)(*) babble suppose to mean?

    As I said in another thread, that Obama didn't close Gitmo immediately or yet doesn't matter to most supporters. He can't very well close Gitmo until the right relinquishes and agrees to allow terrorists to be held in supermax prisons stateside.

    What's so ironic it's the right that tosses around the close Gitmo card, when it's low on the list of priorities for Obama supporters.
     
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    Sounds like your usual run of the mill Islamo to me.
     
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    Leftists would prefer that he would have succeeded, we are Americans after all, and deserve it. Just ask Obama, he tinks we suck a s a country per his great apology tour.
     

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