Nonsense. It's no different than being required to carry your form 4 with you and your class 3 weapons. The same way any other crime is shown or proven They are hypothetical outliers.
AFTER the mandate....... I see, so the 320 million unregistered guns on the street today would not be subject to this book thing.
disagree. if you actually understand LOPEZ its going to be hard to justify making people register guns they have owned for years and cannot sell inter-state. so you are wrong
Of course they would. You just need to create a log of your current inventory. - - - Updated - - - Nobody is talking about register.
Which is still unenforceable without government being able to carry out home inspections without the need for a warrant, or prior notification of the inspection. It still comes down to the word of the seller, who is legally able to own a firearm, against the word of the criminal, who cannot legally possess a firearm. Then debunk them.
Why do I need to log guns that no one knows that I have? I don't want to and there is no way the government can force my to if they don't know that I have it.
Nope. If you are found in possession of a class III item without a form 4, you're going to jail. Just like any other criminal investigation. for what? They're hypothetical outliers. There's nothing to debunk.
If you are found to be in possession of a firearm you haven't logged, you would be subject to criminal penties.
Of course it would. Being able to determine if the person you are selling your firearm to is able to actually own it goes a long way. So does being able to trace where a firearm used in a crime came from.
which is why he opposes it people like you want to make more gun owners into criminals in an insane effort to stop real criminals - - - Updated - - - you sure have a rather naive trust of the government or you are completely ignorant of past abuses of registration criminals cannot be punished for having an unregistered firearm criminals cannot be punished for failing to register a firearm criminals cannot be punished for failing to conduct a background check to sell a firearm they possess the only people who can be punished for said violations are people who can legally own firearms which proves your schemes are designed to harass lawful owners, not restrict criminals
How does me keeping a private log, determine if the guy i'm selling to is a criminal. It would make more sense to make NICS available to those who would like to use it. I'm not sure how my private log is going to assist police trace guns.
Nonsense. Nope. I'm just not mindlessly paranoid. I'm a rational gun owner. You guys give us a bad name. Huh? Nobody is talking about registration. If someone who is not lawfully allowed to posses a firearm is possessing a firearm, they are punished. Huh? Nobody is talking about registration. If someone who is not lawfully allowed to posses a firearm is possessing a firearm, they are punished. Of course they can. Just like ffl's can if caught. Nope. Anybody viola my the law can be punished. Actually nothing you stated was accurate, so no. - - - Updated - - - It doesn't. Conducting a background check determines if he is legally able to possess a firearm. Right. That's what we are talking about. Same was FFL log books do.
We keep going around in circles..... Just answer this..... How does the government know how many or if at all I own a gun currently? How do they enforce your log book. I'm a legal gun owner and wont be committing crimes, so I won't be getting "caught" with a gun that's not logged. Unless I am suspected of a crime, police wont be asking me about my guns or to see any log book. It's called the 4th amendment. They won't be asking my neighbor about guns either and he doesn't own any. The only people this would effect are criminals who police catch for committing other crimes.
They don't. That isn't relevant. Same way they do for ffl's. If you don't have it logged and are found to be in possession of a gun not logged, you're in trouble. Of course they can and will. No different than asking you for your ID. nope. It will affect people caught with firearms not logged, or for acquiring/transferring firearms without performing a NICS check.
Not the same way as FFLs.... They have BATF oversight.... I don't I've never been asked about my guns my whole life, they don't know I have any so they have no reason to start asking now. Are they going to ask every individual in America?
It won't be, find another idea to argue, you have beat this one to death and been shot down at every turn. Maybe you could propose something more in line with society's beliefs and ummm say punish criminals better yet see if you can get a law passed that mandates criminals to register or log their illegal guns. YEAH that's the ticket....let's start with the criminals first....when they do, I will.
