the federal reserve killed jfk

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  1. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    reality check: the federal reserve had nothing to do with it
     
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    Arlen Specter, pulled the magic Bullet theory out of his ass, and had nothing to do with physics.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Wrong again for several reasons.

    First of all the bullet which struck Kennedy's head ( Oswald's third shot ) simply fragmented which is common but not universal in such bullets particularly when they strike something hard ( a skull ) versus striking something softer ( human tissue which is what the second bullet through Kennedy's body struck ). Many fragments of this bullet through his skull were recovered several also caused damage to the windshield and the trim around it.

    The bullet did not exit at a different angle than it entered it went through his body in a normal ballistic path and the exit and entrance wounds are in line one is not lower than the other UNLESS you believe Kennedy was sitting perfectly ramrod straight which he was not. He was in fact bent as most people are when sitting in a seat which is a simple reason why the exit wound seems lower when his body is stretched out on an autopsy table.

    The yaw you refer to actually happened which is documented and proven by the nature of Connally's back wound. Rather than a simple puncture it was an oval elongated wound approximately an inch long indicating that the bullet which had passed through Kennedy struck Connally's back SIDEWAYS rather than nose first.

    That of course is an inconvenient detail conspiracy theorists ignore in fact they seldom discuss the details of Connally's wound since it undermines their theory's.

    Arlen Spector did not pull anything from his ass he did not even create invent or come up with the magic bullet theory. Conspiracy theorists created it by dreaming fiction up out of thin air and lying about what the Commission generally and Spector specifically stated. The second shot fired is in perfect synch with the laws of physics which prove nothing wrong or false about it whatsoever. You only believe it does because a conspiracy theorist told you it did when in fact you have not stated and cannot state how physics prove it wrong.
     
  4. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    the only evidence proves that he lies all the time when he knows he is defeated and closes his eyes and ears constantly and just wants to troll.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    yep,the truth hurts his feelings on that as well so he does this in all his posts.:ignore: since the facts and evidence prove him wrong.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Yes the only evidence proves you are the troll commander in chief.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Yes facts and evidence always prove you wrong which is why you always act like the dictionary definition of a troll and ignore those facts and evidence.
     
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    the available evidence he is talking about is overwhelming evidence that oswald had nothing to do with it and he knows it and this :fart: just happened twice after my last post.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    That is false.

    The available evidence proves overwhelmingly that Oswald acted alone and no evidence has ever been produced to prove a conspiracy.

    This is what was being discussed just as many remember how you were humiliated and proven wrong about the false claims you made concerning this subject and proved yourself the troll by ignoring those facts and repeating lies.
     
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    Ok then the single bullet BS theory...better

    Spectors opinon came from drawings, NOT autopsy photos, which were very different in location of holes
     
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    It may be interesting to you that the bullet fragments missed other people but it is proof or evidence of nothing except that fragments of a bullet can travel in separate directions which is common.

    Normal ballistic path means exactly what it says. Bullets always travel in a ballistic arc which is very gentle but always there. A small segment of that arc can appear to be a straight line. In other words over the distance of a bullets maximum range it will arc up and down but that arc may not be notable when one examines a small part of the bullets flight.

    I will admit that bent is a subjective term but I did not say he was bent over I said he was bent which anyone is if they are in a seated position.

    the reason people are confused with the exit and entrance wounds is that the neck or throat extends farther down the front of any persons body than it does in the back. In addition it is normal for any person to lean forward slightly when in a seated position which is what I should have stated rather than saying he was bent. When all of this is taken into account one sees that there is no change in angle between the entrance and exit wounds.

    I do not know ehre you get your claim that the bullet had to enter at a 17degree angle for it to work as this is simply false.

    The conclusion of the HSCA experts the WC experts the Bethesda doctors, the Clark committee experts who reviewed the Autopsy all agree that the bullet entered and exited at a downward angle of 21 degrees from the horizontal and 26 degrees to the right of true north as it approached him. All of his makes it consistent with a shot from Oswald's perch.

    There is overwhelming evidence that Oswald fired three shots. The first missed the second struck both Kennedy and Connally and the third struck Kennedy's head. And no one else fired any.

    No scientific credible evidence conflicts with this and regardless of whether or not Spector used autopsy photos or autopsy sketches his description of the single bullet is accurate. I noticed I asked for a specific statement or description of the laws of physics which you claim refute this descriptions and you have failed to provide any. Conspiracy nuts in general always ignore the real facts which establishes the single bullet explanation and instead choose to talk about physics which they can never explain or define.

    You still have yet to offer any facts to refute it.
     
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    Soupnazi, You didn't account for the 3 dergees slope of the road. The angle of declination was about 20.5 degrees from true horizontal, slope of the road 3.0 degrees, the bullet was moving downward at and angle of about 17.5 degrees relative to the limo. From WC testomony of Lyndal L. Shaneyfelt, FBI, questioned on the the Motorcade re-enactment: Mr. Sahneyfelt..." Yes; there is a three degree street grade that has to be deducted from the angle to the window to determine the actual angle from the street to the window as opposed to the horizon". Mr. Shaneyfelt also testified that the first shot was fired between frames 225 and 227.
     
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    You maybe correct but this is why the term I used was that his wounds were CONSISTENT with a shot from Oswald's perch.

    No one has ever determined the exact frame where the second shot struck Kennedy and it is impossible to do so. The best we can get are estimates.

    By the same token the exact angle cannot be traced back in a straight line to any precise point especially since bullets do not travel in a straight line.

    The only part that matters is the bullets wounds are consistent with a shot from Oswald's position and no other spot.
     
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    They were also consistent with a shot from the Dal-Tex building, I didn't say the second shot, I said the first shot, the second shot was frame 313. I base that on the Z-film and the many witnesses, closes witnesses, who said the first shot hit JFK. http://www.box.net/shared/p4rzpzio8w Here is a phone conversation between LBJ and Senator Russle, they didn't believe the SBT, along with a couple of other members of the WC. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=1328&relPageId=69 Here is the text from a WC executive session of the WC, were they new they had a problem after looking at the autopsy photo of JFK's back wound and realizing that the back wound was lower than the Sternal Notch.
     
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    They were also consistent with a shot from the Dal-Tex building, I didn't say the second shot, I said the first shot, the second shot was frame 313. I base that on the Z-film and the many witnesses, closes witnesses, who said the first shot hit JFK. http://www.box.net/shared/p4rzpzio8w Here is a phone conversation between LBJ and Senator Russle, they didn't believe the SBT, along with a couple of other members of the WC. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=1328&relPageId=69 Here is the text from a WC executive session of the WC, were they new they had a problem after looking at the autopsy photo of JFK's back wound and realizing that the back wound was lower than the Sternal Notch.
     
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    They were also consistent with a shot from the Dal-Tex building, I didn't say the second shot, I said the first shot, the second shot was frame 313. I base that on the Z-film and the many witnesses, closes witnesses, who said the first shot hit JFK. http://www.box.net/shared/p4rzpzio8w Here is a phone conversation between LBJ and Senator Russle, they didn't believe the SBT, along with a couple of other members of the WC. http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=1328&relPageId=69 Here is the text from a WC executive session of the WC, were they new they had a problem after looking at the autopsy photo of JFK's back wound and realizing that the back wound was lower than the Sternal Notch.
     
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    Actually it is not consistent with a shot from the Dal Tex building. Such a shot would have entered at angle more to Kennedy's left.

    Such a location should also be ruled out for many reasons.

    For one thing no evidence exists of anyone shooting from there. We do however have evidence Oswald fired from the TSBD and the recovered bullets which match his rifle found on the scene. In addition most witness accounts support that evidence as the vast majority heard 3 and only 3 shots coming from that location and no other shots from anywhere.
     
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    You are joking, right! There is no proof that Owald bulled the trigger, one witness claimed to see Oswald shoot and couldn't positively ID him in a line up. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpwound.htm Here is a list of witnesses to the head shot, the closes witnesses say JFK was hit it the right side of his head, do you believe them, no, but you believe one witness who said he saw Oswald shoot from the wnidow, even gave a description, but somehow couldn't positively ID him in a line up. Even the WC didn't use his testimony in their conclusion. Well, if majority rules in witnesses testimony then JFK was hit in the right side of the head.
     
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    Don't have a clue how this got posted three times!
     
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    Actually the closest witnesses did not say that. Just ask Jackie Kennedy.

    Witnesses do not prove a case they support it. Physical evidence is what proves a case. For example most lawyers will tell you that in most cases of PREMEDITATED murder there are no witnesses but they can still often prove who committed the crime.

    Once again the evidence shows he was not hit in the right front but in the back of his head consistent with the rest of the evidence proving Oswald's guilt.
     
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    Circumstantial
     

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