And here is where the left just can't grasp the basic common denominator. We do not have a wage gap in this nation, but a talent gap. We have people that had little to no skill wanting to earn that of a person who has an actual skill. There is no sound business that will not pay a person a good wage that are assets to the company! Even the guy who has no skill for some reason or another, but shows up every day is considered gold to a business. There are some with MR that considered WAY better asset than that 40 year old tatted up dude that shows up 3 days out of a 5 day work week. You know, gotta get your party on man!
Point of this thread is that the real world is shifting back towards the side of fair wages. And, right now, it's accelerating. Don't let the real world take you by surprise.
Absolutely correct. The heavy tax burden includes payroll tax. Self checkout has caught on here and I am already used to it. Eventually, it will get to the point of being able to scan your items as they go onto your cart like the do in the Amazon Fresh stores. As far as it imploding, I think you have it backwards. Sears and Toys R Us are examples of the model currently imploding. I strongly disagree that the government had no choice. They saw an opportunity to use tax dollars to secure power. I support helping people in need, but this was an extreme abuse of power. Many people made more money during the pandemic and still received checks. Its all about more money flowing through the government; not about what is best for the worker. Now that paying people to ass-sit has made positions more difficult to fill, businesses have had to make adjustments and workers are taking advantage.This is not the result of natural supply and demand. It is a move to avoid extinction and stay in business. The costs are passed down to the consumer, and workers are no better off. Politicians are working to gain/maintain power. The letter by their name doesn't matter.
I'm not talking about "minimum wage". I'm talking about living wage. If you don't know what that is, then you are participating in a thread you don't understand. Which explains all your strange remarks throughout the thread.
The real world has an accelerating cost of living eating up any increase in pay. The tax man got a raise!
You don't know what "fair" is. Right now, it's a job seeker's market. That's not "fair" for the employer. At some point, it'll shift back to an employer's market. The reality is that it's all "fair". Just like housing prices, it comes and goes. What is "fair" depends on which side you are on.
So what? There was no pandemic in 2019. What is your point? Oh! I see. You are fixated with the benefits that already ended. The benefits did what they were intended to do.... and more.... They forced big businesses to cut into their profits to offer better wages, and this has had a ripple effect down the line that has produced longer lasting benefits to the workers and to the country.. So far, a huge success!
Be careful of the strawman argument. History does not bear that premise out (that raising minimum, in and of itself, results in the scenario you describe). When Seattle raised it's minimum to $15, many, such as you, predicted restaurants would close in droves, and those that would remain, burgers would be $10, etc. It didn't happen. If they had raised the minimum to $50 an hour, you'd have a point. But, there is a threshold, a veritable sweet spot, which is enough to live on, but not so high as to overly burden a business. That threshold is often higher than many corporations are paying because what corporations do is pay as little as they can get away with. So, the correct action, then, is to disallow them to get away with it. Create a minimum which is enough ( though barely) to live on, but not so high where the business is forced out of business or to raise their prices higher than the market will bear (which would force them out of business ).
Fair means that somebody works a full time employment makes, at a minimum, enough to cover their most fundamental needs. Yeah! Now they can't profit off paying people low wages any longer. How "unfair"!
Ok, I see now that you believe that employers should operate at a loss and their purpose is nothing more than to provide jobs. I'll not waste my time any longer but will suggest that you go to your local community college and take an economics class or two. Maybe try and open your own business. Have a good day.
No! Employers who operate at a loss should not be in business. Period! If a business can't profit from what they sell, and can only make money from the difference between paying minimum wage, instead of a living wage, they need to shut down. It's a failed business! Only people who can run a business should run a business. Otherwise they are hurting families, and they're harming the country.
As discussed, your falllacy is number one there is a very very small amount of the workforce that works 40 hours a week and are on minimum wage. You also say basic fundamental needs, well that's very subjective to say the least, what is that and what's the number? Should the burger flipper have a 3 bedroom apartment, a car, enough for an iphone? What exactly are fundamental basic needs for the extremely small portion of people are you talking about? The whole point of minimum wage is it's a starting point for those with no skills and a chance to move up the chain and make more if one is responsible. It will not be the ceiling anyone who is willing and remotely responsible.
The real world full of lazy and entitled? Naw...I'll succeed regardless. I just don't think you deserve much of anything if all you can do is flip a burger.
Okay fair enough and I'll close out by saying that in our industry, virtually no one was given any opportunity learn other trades and simply laid off with 14 days notice.
I doubt that. Small businesses aren't going to swallow large growth in employment costs without raising prices.
In la la land. The big bad corporations are made up of mostly mom and pops that aren't making huge profits yet they hire the most people across this country. They want to pay their employees more but can't without raising prices or there is no job. You see this is what makes America beautiful, people strive to be better, to be successful, and use the American spirit to drive success.
A "living wage" is where people think that they need to make enough at a minimum wage job to afford a brand new $1,000 iPhone every year, a house, and 3 cars....
