the habit of bringing up comparisons with Hitler and the Nazis

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  1. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Its stupid imo. Very few people were as bad, or worse than Hitler throughout the entirety of history. But his is the most recognizable. And its amazing how little people know of history. So I can see why people use the comparison. But its still stupid because no politician in the US today is that horrible. Not even close. In fact NO politician in our entire history was that bad.
     
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    Actually what @Libhater said is correct. "NAZI" is an abbreviation of "NAtional soZIalistische deutsche arbeiter partei" or "National Socialist German Workers Party". You can use google translate yourself if you don't believe me. Google is your friend. Read up before trying to make snide remarks.
     
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    Good one, we all need a laugh at times.
     
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    Yes, we already know that you will deny that anything bad comes from the right.
     
  5. Kal'Stang

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    False. I don't even lean right.

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    But you obviously will deny any bad that comes from the left.

    And frankly its rather idiotic to say what you did. Its a simple check that ANYONE could have done with a quick 5 second google search of what "NAZI" means. But I guess when one refuses the truth they have to fight back some how some way. ad Homs are usually the way they go.
     
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    Nope, you go too far to the left, you get communism. And we still have the DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC of North Korea.
     
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    Actually communism and socialism are two sides of the same coin. Both are about controlling the means of production. Both are about equity. The differences only lies in the how of doing those things.
     
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    And the Nazis were still fascist.
     
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    So? Do you think being a fascist is only a right wing thing? Its not. Fascism applies to either side. Indeed it doesn't care if you're left or right. All it cares about is control.
     
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    Yes fascism is right wing.
     
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    Wrong. Fascism is all about control at all costs. It doesn't care about left or right. It will take whatever path of least resistance it can. Left or right. Doesn't matter to it. Yes, I know, its is often associated with the far right, racism etc etc. But in reality fascism is just all about the control. Why do you think that socialism and communism often ends up being a dictatorship? Current day Cuba started out as a socialist movement. Same with Venezuela. Same with NAZI's. They all started out as socialist movements. And ended in dictatorships. Or fascist.
     
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    Still right wing.
     
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    You're just proving an earlier comment of mine.

    "But you obviously will deny any bad that comes from the left."

    I provided the evidence. Yet you still deny. As the old saying goes.... "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink."
     
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    Nope, as I said you go to far to the left you get communism.
     
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    Which does not refute anything that I said about socialism, NAZI's being socialist, and fascism not caring about left or right.
     
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    Could you provide actions or policies coming from right wingers (Repubs/Conserves) that shows or proves that they're out to control, deny or erase any of the freedoms we as Americans enjoy as that of being our Constitutional rights in a true Fascist manner? Do these right wingers support the mandating of their children to mask up or the mandating of businesses with over 100 employees to vaccinate or get fired without getting any benefits whatsoever? Or is it right wingers who are the fascists getting stymied of their 1st Amendment rights to voice their opinions at school meetings while being harassed and subdued by the FBI? Which Party here do you suppose is acting out their Fascist agenda?
     
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    Fascism is right wing.
     
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    Irrelevant.
     
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    Reality shows it doesn't care about left or right.
     
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    About what I expected from you. Empty suit!
     
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    I wasn't commenting on anyone's actions.
     
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    Exactly. I presented actions and or policies that are all leftist ones that are as close to if not outright fascist in nature. You said fascism is right wing. Prove it. Give examples.
     
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    I can fully agree with you on one point relating specifically to WW 2: "And its amazing how little people know of history."

    Just about everything that most people know about WW 2, Hitler and Germany's National Socialists they learned from Hollywood's busy WW 2 propagandists.
    For example, it was Hollywood's Billy Wilder who revealed that the evil Germans made lampshades and pocketbooks out of human skin and occasionally shrank the heads of their Jewish victims.

    Unfortunately, these stories like about 90% of everything else that everybody "knows" about the European theater of WW 2 is based on similar Hollywood - Holocaust Industry propaganda.

    I'm afraid that I must disagree with your contention that: "In fact NO politician in our entire history was that bad."

    Eisenhower, whose hatred of the German people is legendary(1) is directly responsible for the deliberate deaths of hundreds of thousands German POWs and civilians by intentionally starving them to death.(2)

    On the other hand, after relentless searching of tons of captured German documents not a single order from Hitler for the killing of Jews or anyone else has been found.

    Finally, I am not trying to minimize the crimes committed by Germany's National Socialists under Hitler's leadership but, rather, to look at the crimes and atrocities of all of WW 2's participants as objectively as possible.



    (1) “God, I hate the Germans...”

    Dwight D. Eisenhower

    https://quotefancy.com/quote/796826/Dwight-D-Eisenhower-God-I-hate-the-Germans


    (2) "EISENHOWER’S STARVATION ORDER"
    https://ww2truth.com/2021/10/02/eisenhowers-starvation-order/
    EXCERPT
    “… under no circumstances may food supplies be assembled among the local inhabitants in order to deliver them to the prisoners of war. Those who violate this command and nevertheless try to circumvent this blockade to allow something to come to the prisoners place themselves in danger of being shot….” CONTINUED



    (3) “To the present day a written order by Hitler regarding the destruction of the European Jewish community has not been found, and, in all probability, this order was never given.”

    - Walter Laqueur, Was niemand wissen wollte: Die Unterdruckung der Nachrichten uber Hitlers Endlösung (What Nobody Wanted to Know: The Suppression of News About Hitler’s “Final Solution”), (Berlin-Vienna, 1981), p.190
     

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