The Holocaust revised!!!!

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  1. allegoricalfact

    allegoricalfact Well-Known Member

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    It was mainly a Transit Camp wasn't it ?

    Search for yourself

    http://www.whale.to/b/treblinka_h.html
     
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    hey! how many times to I have to tell you to stay out of holocaust threads!!?? go to your room and don't come out until I say you can!!!
     
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    Propaganda.There is no documentary proof, no forensic proof, all eye witnesses have been discredited.
     
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    Lol, Hey you just got up grumpy ? xxxx

    You are just cross 'cos you can't be mean to me ;-)

    I'm off anyway later sweety pie xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx :)
     
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    I'm waiting for people to start posting news sources from North Korea.
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you, Jack, that pretty much says it. I, too, feel it is impossible to find the truth as long as a proper investigation is forbidden. One truly doesn't know what or whom to believe. It would be up to Germany to stop payments and say, "we want to conduct an investigation to make 100% sure we know the truth and nothing but the truth!" Since Nuremberg, so much more has come to the surface, a new reckoning should take place... it is owed the German people, the paying party.
    Especially now, as they claim even more Jews were killed in even more camps. It is high time Merkel puts her foot down and demands proof without the shadow of a doubt, or all gets thrown into the waste basket.

    And if she ever got around to that, then the crimes of the allies should be nailed on the gates of Nuremberg at the same time.
     
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    The allies were not even going to have war crimes trials, at the end of WW2, let's just say that the idea was 'presented' to them.

    They are a farce anyway, not just because of how they were conducted, but how can anyone feel any sort of moral superiority, unless the same measures are applied to all those that can fairly have been said to have engaged in mass war crimes, which would certainly have meant that Russia would have been in the dock.

    Even the famed Simon Weistenthal is not all he appears to be. Yet people like him spend holidays across the World, hunting for 90 yr old 'Nazis', while, at the same time, when Solomon Morel fled to Israel, a man who beat his victims to death with stools, and smashed the skulls of infants off walls, he was given full protections by Israel, who, three times denied an extradition request from Poland.
     
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    Nuremberg broke hundreds of years of an unspoken understanding of War. That all countries try there own for Crimes of War. As you say, they were a travesty of Justice, not only was testimony got from torture and often doctored and laughably incorrect and inconsistent .....but that it was made, and as far as I know, still is illegal for any Jew to speak for the defence.


    The trials were USA, victors propaganda.
     
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    I wonder how much, all told, the 'holocost' has generated in cash terms, for the Jews and Israel?
     
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    [video=youtube;YVmIaBW-HjI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVmIaBW-HjI&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
     
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    Treblinka...

    [video=youtube;-wsxmCTScCE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wsxmCTScCE&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
     
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    One thing is certain - during the first few years after end of WW2 - 1945 onwards, facts and what really happened during the War , was distorted/exaggerated + falsified


    As usual, it take a few decades for the fog to clear and we're allowed to question + examine the facts of what really happened.-
     
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    According to ADl approved 'eyewitness', Fillip Muller, in his book, "EyeWitness Auschwtiz", Nazi doctors cut flesh off people for no reasons at all, and threw it in buckets. According to Muller, this disembodied flesh took on a life of it's own, and even jumped around the bucket.
    In the mid 80's, at the height of the Zundel trial, 'eyewitness and survivor', Arnold Friedman testified that he could tell the nationality of the Jew, by the colour of the smoke!!! Blue was Hungarian, green was Polish, etc...
     
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    Why do most still believe in Boudicia then ? Of whom there is no proof at all.

    She was only Roman propaganda, written 50 years later as a warning against trusting Cleopatra.
     
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    Holocaust revisionist "historians" (ie Nazis and their apologists) have been convicted in courts of law and imprisoned as a result of their lies. Irrespective of whether we agree that it's a fair punishment that many of these racists including people like prominent deniers like Irving were banged up, the point is that historians, judges and governments' have come to the determination that the established Holocaust narrative is an undeniable fact. To deny this is to imply that there is one giant Jewish conspiracy amongst the said historians, judges and governments'. Perhaps the judge who determined that Irving was a pathological liar and fascist is Jewish? Holocaust deniers are nothing more than conspiracy theorists akin to 9-11 "truthers".
     
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    In any Holocaust trial the Holocaust may not be questioned.That is the Law, they may not put up a defence because they may not question that which they are being tried for questioning.

    All they are found guilty of and imprisoned for is questioning the Holocaust. The truth and or or lies of The Holocaust never comes into any trial.
     
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    Well something that is established fact is normally illustrative of the truth. There are people on here like Uri who have lost love ones due to the Holocaust. It's a fact so something so offensive as to deny it as fact for all those concerned is offensive and repulsive in the extreme and I therefore understand why it may not be questioned NOW IN THE PRESENT given that it has been historically proven. Try putting yourself in the shoes of others like Uri.
     
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    Boudica ? Boudica ? Boudica?WOW !

    sorry , I fail to see the connection ..

    My dear - "history " unllike prophesies, are always written AFTER the events , AFTER its supposed to have happened . that's why its called "His-story " and not" Her-story"

    Get the facts here :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudica



    Nevertheless, whether records be true or not, I'm an admirer of Boudica, if for no other reason than one of my great-grand -mothers stems from Norfolk - once known as land/kingdom of the Iceni. (wink)

    see this :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boudica
     
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    I have spoken to other Jewish posters over the years and stayed friends with them/ We can't stay silent for fear of upsetting people.

    I knew people, now dead, who were in Camps. I had a good friend whose whole family was shot in front of him and he sent to work in Camps and people who, as kids, were sent away and down mines in foreign Lands.

    There is no proof ....none at all nothing because it DID NOT HAPPEN. That is why we MUST question. It, the lie, colors all we are. The lie, is the Devil and the other lie is God.

    How dare you or anyone tell me what to study or question ..it is the stuff of all we must rail against, it is Inquisition.
     
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    now what did I tell you earlier?
     
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    I'm afraid that pointing out the conspiracy theories relating to Holocaust denial/revisionism in relation to the Inquisition is a false analogy.
     
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    So sorry, I cried when I heard she wasn't :( But she wasn't :) It doesn't matter now she is Myth though :) Aaahhhh boo hoo eh ?
     
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    Even the term 'holocaust' did not come into common use, until the late 70's.

    Inspired by a US made mini series of the same name.

    The figure of six million has symbolic significance to them. The 'holocost' was not the first time they had used six million in relation to the supposed 'imminent demise of Jews'.

    And they are doing it today, with all their chat about the Hamas Charter, and Iran wanting to kill all Jews.

    It's a sickness.
     
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    I think I said is Inquisition, not it is TheInquisition.
     
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    Whatever.
     
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