The ineffectiveness of Ron Paul

That is because the average mainstream American isn't interested in hearing viewpoints from the extreme ends of the political spectrum. No one gives a (*)(*)(*)(*) what the far far left or the far far right have to say and they sure as hell don't like the idea of anarchism.

What makes me laugh about your last sentence.

I've never once seen John Boehner stand up on TV and "whine" about libertarianist anarchism. I don't see Paul Ryan standing up on National TV talking about "the threat" of Libertariansim. LMAO. That is becuase no one really gives a (*)(*)(*)(*) about it.

Ron Paul is the crazy old uncle we pat on the head and appreciate his support.

When I read some of the crazier libertarian I can't help but remember the rhetoric going around in the 1990's that led to OK City bombing of the Murrah Building. A mark of shame that libertarianism can NEVER erase.

I'd rather that stain of domestic terrorism stay safely 3rd party and not come near my beloved GOP. I don't want my party associated with tinfoil kooks and neonazis in Idaho with guns.

 

"Mainstream" this. "Fringe" that. Is truth a popularity contest? Yes, we all know your very mainstream. You've never, ever had an unconventional thought in your entire existence. Good for you?

Then why the heck are you constantly whining about it and him?

What garbage. Libertarianism is a philosophy of nonviolence. That's the whole point of it. McVeigh wasn't a libertarian, he was a pro-aggressionist like yourself. McVeigh's act of child slaughter was also motivated by another act of child slaughter called Waco. Waco was committed by the state and is a mark of shame statism can NEVER erase, along with Ruby Ridge, Kent State, Dresden, Wounded Knee...

I'd rather the stain of the violent and bloodthirsty state not come near me at all. But that hasn't stopped it. Oh well.

 

The more people understand Ron Paul's core philosophy, the more the wheels will come off the cart.

Obviously, Ron Paul won't be carrying the torch in 4 years, there will be some younger, sexier successor mentored by Ron Paul.

But there will hopefully also be a more commonsense, truly libertarian liberal candidate, a kind of anti-RonPaul if you will, that will be able to clarify and expose the lies and distortions. And won't be calling from the complete economic overhaul of the entire system or whatever--people buying oatmeal with gold ingots at the store or whatever the **** the vision is.

 

A complete economic overhaul is what is needed. There's no commonsense or logic in statism.

 

And who would control the process of change, or the "new" system of currency and valuation, the new economy?

What you are thoughtlessly espousing isn't really different from the kind of radical change that revolutions from the French revolution, to the Russian Leninist/Stalinist revolution, to the Chinese revolution, etc etc have tried to do, with disasterous results.

Comparing a new separation of the Union into a loose confederacy of modern euro-states and ripping out the currency, banking and economic system by the roots to the 1776 American Revolution against the English crown is beyond idiotic.

And we all know, that when George Bush was president, all these "tea partiers" were sucking hard at the Federal teat, expanding the patriot act, reveling in empire building and preemptive warfare... but then we get a president who is three shades darker and suddenly it's "Paul Revere rides again to rescue our lands from the oppressive throne of Washington"

... what a load of horse****

 

seriously, I honestly think that Tea Partiers have now convinced themselves, and don't even remember when FOX and Hannity drummed up the little astroturf revolution out of thin air, creating the events, advertising them, reporting on them... it was all bull**** I can't believe no one remembers it. Just look up FOX news archives late 2008 - early 2009.

just completely blatant. And then no one even remembers, it's like "we've been fighting for change with Ron Paul since 1974" or whatever LoL

 

Hahaha - nice non-answer. What is obvious is that you're just making up crap. Typical Ron Paul Zealot. Nice one!

 

Ahhh, the RACE CARD, the absolute positive proof of a completely desperate liberal.
I think Paul is a talker, not a doer, and the problems with obama are his inexperience, his incompetence, and his ideological idiocy. NOT his color.

 

State rights isn't anarchy. That is why we are the united states of america. Each states have different needs to address. That is why the powers of the federal government is rather limited on some issues. Basically the federal government only has a few jobs, and pretty much it all boils down to a national defense.

Look at what America is doing with "Preemptive strikes" America is STARTING WARS. Only bad people START wars. Like Ron Paul said, we should never START a war, only finish one if necessary. WAKE UP.

 

Wake UP.

Paul is at 12.3% approval. He peaked in mid January at 14.1%. He was not, is not and will not be a factor except to you vociferous cultish supporters. Paul's career WAS at an end before the primaries began. His career is still dead, he just hasn't got the memo to lay down yet. But he will before the convention. And if his ego makes him hang around until the convention, he still won't matter.

Research the exit polls from the primaries so far. No strong voting group has supported Paul in any presidential primary in his history of many campaigns. He gets his support from a small group of closed minded zealots that don't amount to a pimple on a gnat's ass when it comes to voting.

The singular thing that Paul supporters can do is assure an obama reelection by not voting against obama or by writing in Paul. Either tack is stupid as it accomplishes NOTHING. Like Paul's career.

 

Polling numbers mean nothing. It's a Philosophy we hold dear to us and we don't cast our beliefs/morals into the wind when a problem comes about. There is no reason for us to feel guilty or pressed into how you want us to feel because in reality you should be the one regretting your actions. You favor your own enslavement and destruction which is why you'll never begin to understand our point of view. You scream and howl at the unknown simply because it's something you don't understand... and just like the previous cases of History make up fantasies linking the unknown to that of diabolical acts. You'll never begin to understand the way we think and feel because you lack the ability to understand us. Continue with your rants and live in the darkness where you belong. Your mind will never be open.

 

YaDa, YaDa, YaDa.

The closed mind attempts to talk to the person with wide open eyes, ears, and mind. FACT. Paul is a footnote. Has always been a footnote. Will always be a footnote.

And I like a great deal of what he says. But I'm experienced enough and wise enough to know that talk without action is very nearly as bad intentional bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

How long would you tolerate an employer that promised you a raise for 30 years, but never gave you a raise or even ever paid you a cent?
That's Paul, TALK, talk talk, TALK, talk talk, TALK, talk talk, TALK, talk talk, and more talk. NO ACTION. You need to open at least one eye or unplug one ear. The mind, well it will take a long while for you to gain any progress there.

What is your political plan for Nov.7 2012 and beyond? Paul will be retired to Texas, rapidly fading from memory. Now what do you do?

 

I would rather vote for THAT man...then the man that promises me a raise and ends up cutting my pay.....

 

That wasn't one of your choices and it won't be one of your choices on election day, unless you're talking about obama.

 

I hold to my beliefs and not go with the flavor of the month in which you want me to fall in line with. Satisfied? You're a man who doesn't hold to beliefs or a Philosophy... Politics is just a Sports Game to you. I hope you enjoy your games, Roman.

 

No...it was one of my choices...and I answered it...now the same question to you...

Who would you work for....the man that promises you a raise yet you don't receive it or the man that promises you one and cuts your pay instead?

 

If Paul is a footnote, it is b/c the Constitution is a footnote. You seem not to care much about the Constitution or liberty; hence, you are perfectly willing to play "politics" with your freedom, your money, other peoples freedom, and other peoples money... burning thru so much cash that you have to raid posterity's piggy bank.

I can't begin to fathom why anyone would vote for any man representing a power structure that consistently violates liberty, violates the rule of law, and steals the wealth of the citizenry - worse, they're stealing your children's money; and your childrens children's money.

The image of Kevin Bacon getting his initiation comes to mind - "Thank you sir, may I have another"!!!

Those of us who believe in freedom founded upon Constitutionally limited government - we vote principle, not the man. Principle is what makes us free - as it is eternally true that, "the essence of freedom is the limitation of government".

If Romney wins, you will vote for Romney in 2016 simply b/c he isn't whoever the other (D) Establishment candidate is. If His Lordship wins, you will vote for whoever the (R) Establishment candidate is, again, simply b/c he isn't the (D) Establishment candidate.

While you're busy playing at politics, the Establishment is fastening chains upon you and bankrupting you - sorry, but that doesn't seem very "wise" to me.

If you're not in this to save your freedom, why are you in it??

Are you going to vote for Romney (R-Establishment) b/c you like his version of socialized medicine better than the Obama's (D-Establishment)??

Since we're already at about 100% debt-to-GDP, and ObamaRomneyCare will absolutely blow that number much higher - are you voting for Romney b/c you think he will give us a softer landing on Planet Socialism?? Is your rationale that it is better to get socialized medicine piecemeal as opposed to Barack O'Stalin's harder core version which is too big swallow in one bite?? Better to inch it along... boil the frog slower as it were.

So is that your "political plan" for Nov. 7th??

I grant ya this - politics, flirting with bankruptcy, insolvency, police state fun and games... all that is much more fun than principle. Perhaps not very "wise"; but certainly more fun

 

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but your beloved big government "conservatism" is growing by the day.

 

can you show me his votes on these issues ?

 

FACT, you will vote for big government collectivist, because you are one, only not bright enough to figure out that Obama is one of you too.

 

The ineffectiveness of Ron Paul is not the only concern that prevents me from voting for him. The other concern is that after analyzing his main policies with a magnifying glass, I have concluded that the fear-mongering by the MSM is actually correct, but with a few stipulations. Ron Paul's policies have excellent intentions. The idea of an alternative currency structure without the Federal Reserve should be well respected. His non-interventionist approach should be regarded as well respected. His sentiments in regards to the National Debt should be coupled with the likes of Andrew Jackson and Thomas Jefferson, two Presidents that epitomized state's rights, one more than the other. However, the reality is that Ron Paul's return to a 19th century style United States must be framed within the 21st century, and unfortunately, he does not seem to have the capability of doing just that.

 

what is a 19th century style united states ?

 

One with gradual yet stable economic growth fueled by real production rather than liquid, artificial production. One with retention of wealth over the long-run due to a strong currency structure. More or less, it is in reference to the unprecedented economic growth we had during the 19th century.

 

what about that needs to be "framed within the 21st century"?