The jig is up for Trump: Special Master has asked declassification details

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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    OOOOpppsss here is somemore truthsocial stuff you missed..

    What’s That Building? Why This Hoffman Estates Warehouse Stores Barack Obama’s Presidential Papers
    There’s no sainthood for Obama, National Archives in Trump FBI raid uproar


    https://www.wbez.org/stories/whats-...l-papers/403ad644-8934-4ee6-85d9-97812af484e6

    https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/109162788320738056
    https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/109162785864305901

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    More bullshit and old debunked news.

    The "Clinton Tape's" for a biography about him were "personal" and Obama's records were legally owned by the government- NARA and were secured by them during their transportation to Chicago and securely stored there.










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    Would court documents be BS ?

    This was decided already in 2012 ... The 11th Circuit of Appeals seemed to miss that part...
    the judge ruled Clinton could keep any records he wants... so can Trump...
    The Judge ruled in 2012 that a president's discretion to declare records "personal" is far-reaching and mostly unchallengeable.
    video here
    https://justthenews.com/politics-po...-tapes-bill-clintons-sock-drawer-could-impact

    https://twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/1560234754292813827

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    :roflol:

    "After Burning Through Every Lawyer In DC, Trump Turned To Wingnut Tom Fitton For Help With Records Kerfuffle"Nothing could go wrong here!
    By LIZ DYE
    onAugust 26, 2022 at 10:33 AM

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    "Okay, let’s summarize. In 2009, Judicial Watch filed a FOIA request to access 79 hours of audiotapes historian Taylor Branch made of then President Bill Clinton for his book entitled, “The Clinton Tapes: Wrestling History with the President.” The Archives responded that it didn’t have those tapes, because they were personal records and thus hadn’t been retained. Judicial Watch then sued to force the Archives to designate the tapes as official presidential records and seize them from whichever third party had possession of them.

    US District Judge Amy Berman Jackson dismissed the case because that is not how the Freedom of Information Act works. Ditto for the Presidential Records Act and the Administrative Procedure Act. From which Fitton infers that the president’s designation of a record as personal cannot be questioned in any forum, and so Trump should just tell the Archives and the DOJ to pound sand because the boxes of classified documents he took are “personal.”

    “No one but the president gets to pick what’s presidential records, no one but the president gets to pick what are personal records,” he yells. “And the Archivist, which is being used as a cutout for the anti-Trumpers running our government here in DC, has no authority to second-guess him.”

    By this logic, a president could designate the entire National Security archive as “personal” on his way out the door, and that would be totally cool.

    In point of fact, that trick didn’t work for Richard Nixon, and it’s not going to work for Trump either, despite Fitton’s insistence that the Presidential Records Act is unconstitutional. And indeed the quote Fitton cites from Judge Jackson’s opinion saying that “the PRA requires the President to ‘maintain records documenting the policies, activities, and decisions of his administration,’ but ‘leav[es] the implementation of such a requirement in the President’s hands.’ is followed in the very next paragraph by an acknowledgment that, on remand, “the Court of Appeals explained that although judicial review was limited under the PRA, it was not precluded entirely.”

    Also, the Presidential Records Act is pretty clear on what is and is not an official presidential record

    . But why Google that stuff when you could just take Tom Fitton’s word for it, right?


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    https://abovethelaw.com/2022/08/aft...t-tom-fitton-for-help-with-records-kerfuffle/
     

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