The Last Time Oceans Got This Acidic This Fast, 96% of Marine Life Went Extinct

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So they found that Ocean PH was not an issue, again, exactly what I have posted. What they did find was that upwelling cold water from the ocean depths increased the CO2 saturation. If you know anything about the Ocean/Atmosphere boundary, only the upper layer is considered to be affected by any interaction, not deep water upwelling that caused the change in that hatchery. If you know anything about the Pacific, you would know that La Nina's cause deep water upwelling which also bring tons of nutrients for fish and that El Nino's let warm water pile up on the West coast suppressing deep water upwelling.

    Of course, in the same general coastal area.

    snip...BTW, ocean ph levels vary daily and the average range is about from 7.5 to 8.5.

    More projections of doom. If you think they can accurately measure ph to 0.1 world wide when the range of variability is so wide, you are only fooling yourself.

    https://www.climate.gov/news-features/features/upwelling-crisis-ocean-acidification
     
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    So now that NY is suing Exxon, we get to see if obfuscations and bull(*)(*)(*)(*) since 1977 make a difference, to some court, and then maybe Obama can get up a suit, but I doubt it. He's baiting Trump, to (*)(*)(*)(*) this all up, when Trump gets elected.
     
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    First, the oceans are not acidic, they are alkaline and any change towards acidity would be towards neutral. Oceans cannot be acidic and alkaline or neutral at the same time but 'ocean acidification' sounds scary doesn't it?

    Well, turns out that scare is all based on assumptions but then along comes actual studies.

    Increase in acidity may not be harmful to coral reefs after all

     
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    The extinction of species is all due to human over population that are taking their environments away from them. It has nothing to do with global warming.
     
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    This is obviously a combination of factors. Climate, Human activities, pollution, degradation of environment...etc...

    To pretend otherwise is foolish in my opinion.
     
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    Over population is what is causing all those combination of factors you mentioned above.
     
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    "Masters"? What's with the slave talk? The dude's just trying to have a conversation with you man. No need to go on a bigoted rant about my friend's skin color.
     
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    a significant number of people in the anglosphere (climate change denialism is far higher in the english speaking world than in other countries) don't seem to understand, so come up with any excuse not to act.

    the cost and being "forced" to change behaviour is always thrown around. The cost ( including economic) of not acting is always ignored.

    The good news is that industry is starting to recognise economic benefits of acting now, so denialists will have less and less influence as we shift to more sustainable practices, with no negative impact on lifestyle
     
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    Industry knows which side their bread is buttered on so will be pals with the government agenda. The CAGW alarmism is based in Western countries, basically the US and the EU, the players with the most money and are promising to give money away attracting all other countries including China that is considered a developing country. The warmists, basically environmentalists, never consider the cost of massively changing the economic model and all the unintended consequences.

    Here is one of the unintended consequences of rabid idealism. The push to grow corn for ethanol to reduce the use of oil reduces land use for bees since corn is pollinated by wind and not bees. Corn takes a lot of ground water to produce adding to sea level rise. It takes around 6000 years to replenish aquifers.
     
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    The Fishy ‘Science’ of Ocean Acidification

    During an FOI request for an alarmist NOAA article that showed in the NYT, this comment was returned by one of the scientists.

    The editor asked,

    Dr Busch, who works for NOAA’s Ocean Acidification Program and Northwest Fisheries Science Center at Seattle, responded to Ms Applebaum:

    Of course that didn't stop them from claiming doom and gloom with no need for evidence.
     

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