The law separating aliens from their children was passed in 1997

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  1. ocean515

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    BS.

    Your link is a load of bullshit.

    Typical media bull masquerading as fact.

    Clearly you have not looked at the law. You also have not looked at the policies related to handling illegal aliens caught sneaking into the country without identification.
     
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    Well I'd gladly give you an answer if your weren't hyperbolic and all over the map.. Slow down, take a deep breath and gather your thoughts and choose a subject to discuss..
     
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    I just watched an interview with some border patrol agents, who made some points we have missed. Including-

    The drug cartels are the prime promoters of illegal immigration. In part, it's profit from people smuggling, but it also serves to aid with drug smuggling. By keeping the border patrol busy chasing the immigrants in the bush- the resources of the patrol are taxed, and that lowers their ability to deal with drug smuggling. Distraction action, so to speak.

    They often find that family units who apply are not family at all; that kids are sometimes paired up with a man and a woman who then claim to be a family to take advantage of the loopholes. Lacking access to records in distant countries, who is to say for sure?

    They sometimes find that the kids in a "family" unit are most afraid of their own "parents".

    They find scripted responses to the initial asylum qualification questions are shared when someone is successful. People who get accepted quickly post the statements the used to get in on social media as well as sending text messages to friends preparing to attempt it. They know this because they have found those messages on cell phones of the immigrants as well as the media, and because applicants often have memorized what they need to say, word for word, and to the agents- it's deja vu; same recital they have heard several times in a short period.

    Now there are of course legitimate applicants- but you have to be very, very naive to think that the con jobs are rare; they are in fact the norm.
    There is a stiff price paid to accommodate this game- the government spends $35,000 in tax dollars per child, per year, for those who are detained.
     
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    Last week Homeland security said that 1995 children have been taken from their parents so far this year. That's 1995 more than during 8 years of Obama and 8 years of Bush II or any president for that matter. Even the internment camps of WWII didn't separate the kids from their parents. I should say American president, Hitler did it, The Lord's Resistance Army does it, Boko Haram does it...
     
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    Proof please. Credible, concrete proof please.
     
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    Thanks to ambulance chasing liberal lawyers everyone from central America claims to be an asylum seeker

    Even ms13 gangbangers

    We should deport them all the same day with the address of the US embassy in their home country
     
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    MS 13 is what these people are running from in some cases.

    If Trump really thought MS 13 was a threat he could have them designated as a international terrorist organization. Which would open them to Special Forces extrajudicial killings overseas, and arrest and extraordinary detention in the US even if already in prison. Even if they are American Citizems.
     
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    running from or part of

    But either way thay dont belong in America
     
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    Under Obama, when illegal border crossers were put into the criminal justice system, families were indeed separated. Obama, of course, rarely prosecuted, even though the law calls for it.

    Neither Democrats nor the media cared about family separation then, which proves this manufactured and coordinated uproar is only about politics.
     
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    Admit it, Trump doesn't care about MS 13 except as a political football. What resources has he committed to wiping them out?
     
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    So your saying for the first year and half of his Administration Trump refused to enforce the law.
     
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    If families were separated, was it to the extent it is being done now? There has to be a reason it did not get the coverage today's events are getting, and it is not because pro-liberal left media controls our information supply. Seriously: the point I am making is that maybe it was done to some extent, but not to the extent it is being done today: everyone knows this, even conservatives, conservatives in Washington, conservatives in the government. Conservative congressmen are asking Trump to stop this policy.

    "Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the majority leader, said that “all of the members of the Republican conference support a plan that keeps families together,” endorsing quick passage of a narrow bill to provide legal authority to detain parents and children together while the courts consider their status."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/19/us/politics/trump-immigration-children-separated-families.html
     
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    Translation, Trump following the law = refused to enforce the law. Liberal logic 101.
     
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    Your the one who said that "Now" he's following the law. Which would mean that before he wasn't.
     
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    So are the ones who come with parents who get arrested for improper entry. At least according to the definition of unaccompanied minor in the ****ing law.
     
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    This has been happening all along, happened under Obama and Bush, it is suddenly a news story for political reasons.
     
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    Congress has failed for more that forty years on immigration.

    Pick a remote closed barracks somewhere, let the Army transport them in and lock them up on bread and water until they act.

    Make overweights sleep in the top bunks.
     
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    It is funny how the rabid left wingers are frothing at the mouth over this but never cared when it happened under Obama.
     
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    Except it didn't.
     
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    I think trump is offended by ms13 as you should be also
     
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    You mean he is enforcing the law, something Obama found distasteful.
     
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    Well then why doesn't he have them designated an international terrorist group. He can do that by executive order and deploy US Special Forces to carryout extrajudicial assassinations in El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala.

    MS 13 members in US prisons for murder and other charges could then be retried in Federal Courts and sentenced to death under terrorism charges even if the State they were convicted in has no Death Penalty.

    You could also just arrest MS 13 members for just being MS 13 members. They would be subject to extraordinary rendition if not citizens and if they are they can be held indefinitely without bail.
     

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