The Liberal Advantage

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  1. BuckyBadger

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    No, this never happened.
     
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    “Soy foods did not cross over into the mainstream until the 1960s and 1970s when non-Asian hippies popularized tofu as a politically conscious vegetarian food,” says Roth. “In the 1980s, tofu built a reputation as a cholesterol-free meat and milk alternative among health-obsessed yuppies, who flocked to Tofutti and similar products."

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.history.com/.amp/news/soybean-china-american-crop-tariffs

    By the way I very much dislike tofu and never eat it.
     
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    And also have the highest taxes... High taxes don't spread wealth they concentrate it.
     
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    Robot welders are far more precise and produce consistently better welds but thanks for establishing your own own lack of subject matter knowledge.
     
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    Typo!

    It did feel like I was being boiled alive but that should have been 100F.
     
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    duplicate
     
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    So you are unaware that water and steel conduct electricity and yet you are pretending to be a professional welder? :eek:

    :roflol:
     
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    Both of you are right. @FatBack understands that it takes human interface to determine correct procedures and once perfected a machine can do just as well. One thing a machine cannot do is deal with a change in situation. Machines do very well with spot welding and very poorly with continuous welding.
     
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    Sir Isaac Newton was an ordained minister who was required to give sermons as part of his teaching job. However he stopped giving them for fear of revealing his own realization that religion was deception and that science was a more accurate way to understand the universe.

    Charles Darwin obtained the evolution concept of survival of the fittest from a friend of his who was also an ordained minister who had written a book on market economics about why some corporations thrive while others fail. Darwin himself abandoned religion after he watched his beloved daughter suffer a terrible prolonged death. He could hot accept that any "loving god" would do that to an innocent child.

    These great scientists and inventors of the past understood that religion was METAPHORICAL while science is LITERAL! The problem we have with today's Science Deniers is that they take the bible LITERALLY which is their problem only. A great many normal Christians still understand that their religion is metaphorical.
     
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    That is no longer the case when it comes to pipelines and shipbuilding.

    https://www.kobelco.co.jp/english/ktr/pdf/ktr_36/017-022.pdf

    https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/friction-stir-welding-robotic-crawler/
     
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    LOL, never said I was a pro, but i can direct you to a thread where I documented a build of a special needs, reverse tandem trike. Two in fact. Build number three, begins soon. So i guess that makes me whatever you want. Please tell me how he was in danger of electrocution? (hint, no more so than I am, on my porch)
     
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    Yes, interesting commentary on Newton and Darwin. Most people don’t know about his “falling out” with God over his personal life experiences. Actually he lost three offspring in childhood. He theorized it may have been due to inbreeding since he had married his cousin. Oh, and a lot of his ideas came from his grandfather and many believe some were plagiarized from Wallace. But the Wallace part is debatable.

    I always find it humorous that science denial is equated with religion so often when it occurs in atheists, agnostics, and believers in all kinds of religions. I’ve seen it exhibited by self proclaimed scientists on this forum! :)
     
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    They've been welding underwater for decades....
    100 degrees ain't crap. During my summer of bad jobs, I worked in a galvanizing plant. The zinc in the open tank was around 840 degrees. Where we were standing was around 140. It was 105 outside but that's where we went to cool off. Worst job ever. Oh and that wasn't the worst of it.
     
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    'Wasn't that the result of Babbage's efforts at reconciling religion with science? That the Bible is not literal but metaphorical. I think it is interesting reading the progression of the rejection of religion, and eventually the rejection of God in the writings of Enlightenment philosophers.

    At first it was questioning Christianity. I suppose it was helped along by the Protestant revolution, which had fractured the Christian world. The philosophers took it further and began to chip away at the very idea of belief.

    John Locke was highly critical of Christainty, but could not imagine a world not run by a god. A little less than a hundred years later David Hume had gone that last mile and rejected even the notion of a god. It is rather interesting that Hume was well received by the gentlemen of the day.
    Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson went to the edge, but never crossed it, not in their writings at least. It may have something to do with the condemnation Thomas Paine received for having written The Age of Reason. By the time of Einstein, Ford, and Edison, "God" had become mostly a metaphor for other things.
     
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    Does "Sing" sound like a non-Asian name to you? :roll:

    BTW, that Asian company basically served the Asian population in San Francisco during that time period. So, wrong again, I'm afraid.

    You have been wrong from the start about all of your "soy bean and tofu" claims. Next time, do some research on the topic instead of making up stuff. Or take a course other than "Liberal Mechanical Arts Welding Theory and Application Small Engine" classes. (Sarcasm). Which we know you just made up.
     
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    The idea of evolution originated among geologists. At some point many realized that the Earth had been changing. That the Earth was evolving. The first fossils had been found by geologists before Darwin ever stepped aboard the HMS Beagle. The idea of biological evolution was going to happen regardless if Darwin lived or not. It is why his ideas were so readily accepted by the scientific community.

    A quote often attributed to Darwin is, I don't disprove the Bible, nature does.
     
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    Spot on.

    Conservatives tend to see the world in black and white. IE, in a binary vision.
    Good/evil
    black/white
    up/down
    male/female
    etc.

    Liberals tend to see the world in various ways. A spectrum of possibilities.
    Infinite numbers between 0 and 1.
     
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    Yet the acts that take away freedoms and liberties come from Conservative politicians.

    See the Patriot Act.

    The Senate voted to let the government keep surveilling your online life without a warrant
    Many senators wanted to forbid the government from secretly collecting information about your internet habits, but an amendment failed by just one vote.
    https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/5/13/21257481/wyden-freedom-patriot-act-amendment-mcconnell
     
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    Those are actually southern conservatives.

    They lost the war to own black people.
     
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    They were anti gov't. Correct?
     
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    Ah, the old "party switch" historical revisionism.
     
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    Conservatives don't have a party.
    They claim to be part of the R party at this point in time.

    But there is no denying the south is conservative, then and now.
    Are you saying the south isn't conservative? Got some proof?
     
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    Southern Democrats were the slave owners.
     

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