The media needs to be held accountable, they need to be liable

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  1. Mike12

    Mike12 Well-Known Member

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    The most hateful and harmful human beings are the ones we see in the news media. They constantly lie and spew hatred, on purpose.

    This case was never about a white supremacist going to kill black people, the judge wasn't a white supremacist and the jury was not a bunch of white supremacists.

    The fact are the facts.

    Rittenhouse didn't purchase an AR-15 illegally and crossed state lines. The evidence shows he crossed state lines (not a crime) the day before and used a gun which was stored by friend in Kenosha.

    Rittenhouse didn't possess a gun illegally. His friend, who was 18, bought the gun for Rittenhouse and once Rittenhouse turned 18, he possessed the gun. His friend, it seems, may be in a bit of trouble for purchasing the gun on behalf of rittenhouse but technically speaking, once rittenhouse had it in possession, it was legal. These are the facts.

    Rittenhouse wasn't there to shoot black people and there is no evidence this was racially motivated. He ended up killing 2 white people! where is the racist angle here? The two victims did attack him and put themselves in danger. One of them was caught on video setting fires and even shouting N word apparently... These shootings had nothing to do with racism

    Rittenhouse went to Kenosha to defend/guard a car dealership amidst the protests. This was corroborated by some witnesses even though there was conflicting testimony

    Fact is there is no evidence to suggest this was racially motivated, the 2 victims were white. There is no evidence Rittenhouse is a white supremacist. There is no evidence to suggest Rittenhouse just went there to kill people, evidence points to self defense.

    The media has lied and lied in an attempt to make this appear to be some racist white supremacist who went there to shoot blacks. The media has attempted to incite riots and intimidate the judge and the jury, take the trial to court of public opinion. It's is an absolute disgrace and almost criminal. I find it wrong that we cannot hold the media accountable for this behavior, they do tremendous damage to society when they defraud the viewers into believing lies, they seek to sow discourse, divide and incite riots. This leads to people being hurt. This should not be allowed.... We need stronger laws to be able to prosecute anyone in the media knowingly spreading this type of nonsense, knowingly trying to incite riots, defaming people.
     
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    Yup! I think the more they have to pay out for their gas lighting/false narratives...the less profitable it will be to bullshit their base into believing outrageous narratives.

    Get on it Kyle. Time to get rich.
     
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    @Mike12 It is a disgrace as you said and it is criminal. It was an attempted media lynching of an innocent young white man. The prosecutor also violated his constitutional rights multiple times during the trial.

    No matter how you slice it, our country's legal system has become politicized in some cases to the point of being worse than the sham trials held in the old Soviet Union. It is sad and it is disgraceful. This is not America.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The irresponsible media including ESPN are still playing this as a racial issue.
     
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    Soon, the entire Lying Left will be held accountable.

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    The owner of the car dealership never asked or wanted Rittenhouse to guard his car dealership. If we can believe what he said???
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They lied. They were given keys to the place.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But neither did they turn down his help when he just happened to be there when it was being destroyed.
     
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    if we could jail journalists who KNOWINGLY spread the lies in order to sow discord and incite riots, it would be a great thing. Yes, freedom of press is important but when it's deliberate; i.e., misinforming the public in order to incite riots, it should be a crime. The people on MSNBC are especially unreal, claiming judge was a white supremacist, the jury, the defendant with ZERO proof. 3 white men ended up being shot by 1 white man. Race had nothing to do with this incident. Spreading lies that the jury reached a horrible verdict, that they let a killler go who just went there to kill blacks with no provocation. This is what incites riots because millions of people count of media to get facts.... Seeing the 4-5 black faces on MSNBC spew this hatred i had a moment of total disbelief 'how could the media get to this point'. These guys are HATEFUL people, racists... they hate whites. They want violence...
     
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    All true. A better report than the liberal lying media gave us. But the liberal lying media don't care about the truth, they only care about pushing their "hate-the-USA" and "dividing the races" agenda. The media has no shame.
     
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    The gun was not legal as Rittenhouse fired it when he was 17 and in Wisconsin one could not possess such a weapon or open carry such a weapon at 17.
    The charges of white supremicist came from pictures of his celebration where he posed with proud boys, but I agree that doesn't make him a white supremicist.

    My take is that Rittenhouse was an immature young man who was in over his head. I hope he doesn't get used to his own detriment by the political right.
     
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    He has more to worry about from the left, who have smeared his name, labelled him a white supremacist who went there to murder people. He will need security for years or risk bodily harm. But you just care about what the political right will do, heck, i sure would seek them before i seek the left. At least there are some who stand by him, he is an innocent man, acquitted.
     
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    Yes he was acquitted. That is not in despute. But what you say about the "left" and the labels are generalizations from you. He was treated no worse in the press than former President Trump and his press treated Obama.
    If you push him out there to fight your battles and go after the press you are the one that is using him. He should do what he wants to do and not be pressured by anyone. I remember when some people said the same thing about Robert Zimmerman and that did not work out well for him.
    Everyone should leave the young man alone to live his life as he sees fit
     
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    His defense was he shot in self defense. The videos show that to be the case. The jury judged him on that. All the other fluff tossed around (he was 17, could not carry a weapon, posed with Proud Boys, was a white supremacists, should not have been there) had no bearing on the charges. Some who have never served on a jury just don't understand how juries are instructed to judge a defendant.
     
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    Even if we accept this assertion as 100% true, why would you draw a comparison between a 17 year old boy and a President (whom is obviously a willing public figure)?

    This strikes me as about as bizarre of a comparison as could possibly be made.
     
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    Nick Sandman and Kyle will probably share custody of CNN and MSNBC
     
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    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    While I am no fan of censoring the media, it sets a dangerous precedent, I believe lawsuits against the media should be much more easily obtainable with enormous minimum monetary payouts for falsifying information. I'm talking a minimum mandatory payout of a significant fraction of the entire net worth of the company for intentional defamation.

    There needs to be accountability, America's "freedom of the press" is a double edged sword when coupled with the way our judicial system works allows the media to virtually publish whatever they so desire whether true or not. The amount of money these companies have allows to them employ an army of top dollar lawyers to protect them and most folks don't have the money to rightfully sue them if necessary. I'd be willing to support legislation that sets a minimum mandatory payout for each media infraction they publish, and the payout needs to be dire. None of this settling out of court stuff and tossing a few hundred grand which is chump change to big corporations. As long as that remains the standard the media has no real reason to change their immoral ways. These lawsuits and whatnot are factored in as part of their annual budget and they make more money through ratings than they ever have to end up paying out for lawsuits which is why they act the way they do. It's smart business.

    The solution is to scale the penalties accordingly.
     
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    still you haven’t explained why you only singled out political right who hasn’t done this kid any harm yet, the political left has and it’s disgusting
     
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    agreed. I mean they can’t just take a case like nick sandmann, a kid who did nothing but stand as a crazy nut got in his face and spread misinformation smearing his name. Same here with rittenhouse, convincing public he’s a white supremacist who is a murderer who was acquitted by a racist jury during a trial with presiding judge being a white supremacist. This stuff harms people and incites riots. It’s unacceptable, they have no morals.
     
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    1. Because it would beyond stupid for the political left to try and use him.
    2. Because it is the political right that seems to be pushing him to sue the media for their own gain.
     
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    Just pointing out the inaccuracies in Mike 12s post.
     

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