The moral of the story is, Trump won again!

I would think Trump would want to lead by example and bring those jobs homes to Americans... you know... his being America first and all... seems he is really Trump first

 

the telemarketing jobs are not moving overseas, it's the customer service and IT jobs, but nice try spinning those jobs leaving the USA for India

if you get a foreign telemarketer, hang up as they are most likely a company wanting to violate the laws as you say

 

But it's only the product that he owns, and he does bring it here. Not many products are wholly produced ... manufactured by Americans comprised of US components, assembled in USA. Is the global econmic network bad? Should US entities voluntarily place themselves at a disadvantage? Don't tariffs potentially repatriate jobs created by outsourcing to cheap consignment labor? Liberals boycott Trump's brands. You think the mob might spare his facilities and employees based here ... like Mar a Lago? Trump Tower, his DC hotel? You don't want that hand full of low wage jobs, you exploit the "issue" as a matter of routine.

 

Customer service jobs are part of those crummy jobs Obama had under his administration. No, we don't need jobs that don't pay crap. Almost all of Obama's 12 million jobs were in service jobs. Not all paying bad, but many were.

I guess it depends on what Trump products your talking about. If cloths, I doubt it. That is one industry that is low paying and has to much low paying competition. We don't need to bring back sweat shop jobs.

Just how are Americans being conned if he is replacing low paying service jobs with high paying manufacturing jobs?

 

Dude My son works in IT, He's worked for three different companies in the last six years without moving more than fifty feet.

If I don't recognize the phone number I don't answer. One other thing when you answer the phone don't ever say yes instead of Hello...

 

Microsoft and Verizon just announced they were moving billions in jobs to India, but they are just a couple of many doing the same thing.... mega corps are shipping jobs overseas.. Trump could care less it seems

 

wow, so your saying Americans do not need those customer service jobs..... well India thanks you, Trump's new slogan, make India great again

some Trump supporters will always support cheap foreign labor over American labor it seems

 

Jobs sooo desirable firms formerly staffed them with prison inmates? Til they got caught scamming and stalking customers. Now I am no fan of outsourcing, especially if verbal communication is involved ... but the lure of cheap labor isn't Trump's creation, or his fault.

 

So if Malaysia factories pay their workers .75 per hour, with no medical benefits, to manufacture Trump's clothing line that is justifiable in the eyes of Trump to keep his goods being manufactured out of country?

What was Trump offering for wages, benefits and working conditions? There are still more then enough American's who are laid off or not working who could easily fill those jobs. There are a lot of unanswered questions that need to be answered.

I think there may be some validity to your answer here; however at what cost to the American worker. Also why GE Stock is at an all time low when compared to their stock values in the early 1990's. IBM is a toss up at this point.

 

Actually the number of illegals in the country peaked in 2007 and the jobs they take are really low pay like fruit picking that Americans don't want anyway.

 

Problem is that the average salary for someone working in manufacturing for 5 -10 years is only about $35,000. Also, you are ignoring the fact that most of these jobs we lost was due to automation not outsourcing and most jobs we recover from overseas will be replaced by robots in the coming decades. At the same we have a 5.7 million job skills gap according to linkedin that Trump is doing nothing to fill, and these healthcare and tech jobs pay a lot more.

 

Tell me what is the average wage of service and part time jobs? Because for 8 years, almost all of the jobs created under Obama and Liberal policies were just that. Yes, the healthcare jobs pay more and so do tech, I also showed where Apple and Intel were bringing tech jobs back. I don't give Obama any credit for increase of health care jobs, as most of those came with the aging baby boomer generation.

Many of the jobs I posted were in the automotive industry and the average wage there is about $17.00 an hour for new hires and around $27.00 an hour for senior employees, plus benefits. I would say that is much better than most of the low paying jobs under Obama.

Automation may take over some of the manufacturing jobs in later years. But even many of the new plants moving in are hiring anywhere from 2,000-3,500. We need to take advantage of the jobs we have now and work towards what we need to do for the future.

Donald Trump: Increase funding for job training and ...
https://www.politiplatform.com/trump/foreign+policy/392
Increase funding for job training and placement services (including incentives for companies hiring veterans), educational support and business loans. All Americans agree that we must do everything we can to help put our service men and women on a path to success as they leave active duty by collaborating with the many successful non-profit organizations that are already helping.

 

That isn't true, only a small percentage of the jobs taken by illegals is on farms. They get into a lot of the construction jobs. Many were caught working at Tyson, grocery chains, lawn care, service jobs, etc. what is called blue collar jobs and that hurts many of the Hispanic population already here and are citizens. Along with many Blacks and Whites that have gotten into legal trouble or quit school, got pregnant and have limited job opportunities. They are also hired by many companies that are in competition with union shops that hold down union wages.

I don't believe for a minute jobs peaked in 2007. We have been saying for at least the last 20 years there is only 11 million illegals in this country and I think its closer to 20 million.

 

Joblessness.

 

No, but to try and bring his clothing line back here and compete with an Asian factory making the same product with little to no benefits, Trump or most clothing manufactures would have to price their product so high to pay a living wage, they could never compete with the Asian factory. I'm not going to pay $50.00 for a tie when one right next to it is selling for $15.00. There are still products we can not compete with Asian products, even giving American companies tax cuts.


I don't know what Trump was paying. I personally think that companies bringing in H1-b help should have to show that they have tried to get American help and not enough applied. I don't think they do that now. I don't know how you would enforce that.


I don't know why GE stock is so low. I owned stock in GE about 5 years ago but got rid of it as it wasn't going anywhere. With all they were invested in I thought it would be a good money maker.

 

The smell of socks is all over this thread

 

Wrong we have guest worker programs already in place for fruit picking fruits and veggies. Further a nee study out by NYCU indicating that the number of illegal immigrant in this country is far higher than previously thought.

 

I believe if you have a superior product, people will pay what you ask. Trump tout's his clothing line as among the best in the world so it stands to reason that people his business targets (mostly upper class) can well afford to pay more then the average person.

They could most likely enforce it by require employers who apply for H1-b's show job postings, citing rate of pay, benefits & terms and conditions of employment, along with the response rate of Americans who applied.

I owned GE stock (quite a bit) back in the late 1980's thru the mid 90's when it split three times in one year, then sold it all and bought mutual funds for more conservative investing. GE Executives over the past 15 years made some very bad choices in their businesses and are now restructuring to make the company more profitable then it has been over that period of time. Meanwhile I don't recall ever seeing their stock prices this low.

 

I hope that this is still reachable, because in the past that is way too difficult to achieve further on I hope that it is done correctly.

 

It requires corroborative statement and investigation by the NBI,
that is a not so ordinary case by an extra ordinary person.