The Most Practical Solution to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

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  1. HBendor

    HBendor New Member

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    a) Zionist squatters? Are not squatters but part of the Jewish people living in their ancient land!

    b) Palestinian Land? There is no such a thing, there was NEVER in history an Independent Palestine!

    c) The emancipation of Jews in Israel goes far and beyond any expectations.

    d) Israel has the most successes in medicine, agriculture in new inventions and innovations...
     
  2. stuntman

    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    I belive when you say "Zionist squatters" you refering to the Jews that are living in the West Bank, so for that I have to tell you that in the 90's an agreement betweeb Arafat and Israel have been signed, in the agreement were agreed that the whole area of the West Bank will be seperated for 3 areas:
    1. Area A- an area that the PLO is in control 100%! the Palestinian police is incharge on security issues.
    2. Area B- an area that the PLO is in control but about security issues will be incharge the IDF, and also the military camps that you can see in area B was been agreed in Oslo Accords! in that area Israel and the PLO is coopareting about security problems.
    3. Area C- an area that you have a full Israeli rule there, so it means that if Israel want to build houses there it is accaptable to the Arabs and to the US also, which oviously was the 3rd party in this agreement.

    I didnt say it is accaptable but an international agreement say that!!
    BTW- the Israeli laft wing is nowdays condemning Israeli government for the occupation that is going on in the West Bank and the radicals in the left wing saying that the IDF is an occupied force and also the US an UN say that, but the presence of the IDF in the West Bank nowadays is because Oslo Agreement, the same agreement that the Isreali lefties and the US and the UN found it a lagitimate agreement, so how can all of them can say today that what Israel is doing in the West Bank is not accaptable when they were accapted an agreement that created the reality that goes on today in the West Bank?
     
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    So we can hold all muslims responsible for crimes muslims commit against us. Delighted to hear it and we can hold all black people responsible for black crime...thanks for making it clear.


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    snakestretcher Banned

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    International law and the Geneva Conventions clearly state that the transfer of part of the civilian population of a belligerent occupier (Israel) into occupied territory, is illegal. Thus the Zionist squatters in the building of their 'settlements' are acting illegally. Furthermore Netanyahu, in announcing the accelleration of the 'settlement' programme, is also in grave violation of international law. In effect he has encouraged and condoned the commission of a war crime.

    https://www.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docs/v2_rul_rule130
     
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    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    I already posted it several of times, but let post it again.

    * The occupant does not acquire sovereignty over the territory- Israel does not implement sovereignty over the area A and In area B there is not Israeli civilian rule- which means DONE
    * Occupation is only a temporary situation, and the rights of the occupant are limited to the extent of that period - Israel across their history tried to implement a peace treaty with the Arabs according to the West Bank and Gaza but there was always Arab opposition about it, and you could sew it when Olmert seggested to Abu-Mazen the most generous preliminary agreement and Abu-Mazen didnt signed with him, or even whole of the things that Arafat wanted was suggested to him and he didnt want to sign.
    * The occupying power must respect the laws in force in the occupied territory, unless they constitute a threat to its security or an obstacle to the application of the international law of occupation.- done, the IDF never interepted the laws that the PA ruled inside of Areas A and B, they only does things that threat Israel's security.
    * The occupying power must take measures to restore and ensure, as far as possible, public order and safety.- the IDF does the exact thing and only takes measures on terrorists, and also of course the Oslo Accords.
    * To the fullest extent of the means available to it, the occupying power must ensure sufficient hygiene and public health standards, as well as the provision of food and medical care to the population under occupation- done- Israel sends ingredients either Gaza nor the West Bank and also provide medical care, and in the West Bank if Arab gets hurt the soldiers there give him madical care.
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    * The population in occupied territory cannot be forced to enlist in the occupiers armed forces- they dont want and it doesnt happen
    *Collective or individual forcible transfer of population from and within the occupied territory are prohibited- the IDF doesnt do it, maybe it did but no longer.
    * Transfers of the civilian population of the occupying power into the occupied territory, regardless whether forcible or voluntary, are prohibited- Israel is building houses in Area C, but as we all know Area C is under civilian and military rule, so it means that is not an occupeid territory (Oslo Accords)- DONE
    * Collective punishment is prohibited- the IDF doesnt do it
    * The taking of hostages is prohibited- the IDF only takes terrorists for investigation, but not as hostage, several hours after the investigation they let the terrorist go- DONE
    * Reprisals against protected persons and their property are prohibited- Israel doesnt encourage it, on the contrary, Israel is arresting individuals that do it.
    * The destruction or seizure of enemy property is prohibited, unless absolutely required by military necessity during the conduct of hostilities- the IDF doesnt do it, and when they did do it it was ok because it was required be military necessity- DONE
    * Cultural property must be respected- Israel doesnt encourage it, on the contrary, Israel is arresting individuals that do it.
    * People accused of criminal offences shall be provided with proceedings respecting internationally recognized judicial guarantees (for example, they must be informed of the reason for their arrest, charged with a specific offence and given a fair trial as quickly as possible)- the IDF arrests those who been charged with a specific offence and the IDF puts them on a trial- DONE
    * Personnel of the International Red Cross/Red Crescent Movement must be allowed to carry out their humanitarian activities. The ICRC, in particular, must be given access to all protected persons, wherever they are, whether or not they are deprived of their liberty- the IDF allows International Red Cross to carry out their humanitarian activities (and I sew it with my own eyes)

    Source: https://www.icrc.org/eng/resources/documents/misc/634kfc.htm

    Those principles was spelled out in the 1907 Hague regulations, Fourth Geneva Convention, as well as in certain provisions of Additional Protocol I and customary international humanitarian law.
    OR as written in the link:
     

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