The Myth of the Fatherless Black Child

You've been shown why.

An illegitimate birth only means the people were not married when the child was borrn. These women have boyfriends, and as the op showed, the majority of these situations the father is involved. So you're arguing a bogus argument that really has nothing to do with the economic situation backs face.

 

And joe, on an annual basis whites are arrested at more than double the rate of blacks. So that means there is more police interaction with the good two parent father at home family white people.

 

And last, I have been with white lades. I lived with a woman in a suburb for several years, I was surrounded by single white female divorced women raising their children alone. And they had problems. So how about the whites here start looking in the mirror?

 

I don't care about your skin color. Yes because being calm and polite when you're pulled over is selling out.

 

It's almost like 59% of the population has more arrests than 14% of the population.

 

Yeah… we also have more whites shot by police as well. But we don’t defend the portion of us that try and fight cops or do something stupid to get shot

 

All races have suffered because of welfare and modern feminism.

 

Exactly.

If a white criminal and a black criminal team up and murder and rob people, we say "fry them both".

We don't take the weak stance of "boo hoo you want to jail me because of my skin color".

No.

I don't give two ****s about the skin color of a criminal. Death penalty for both as far as I'm concerned.

 

I will touch on this later when I have more time. I believe this is 100% wrong. However to start, you will never address the amount of blacks killed by cops until you address the culture of crime that has lead to their huge murder rate. I’m talking huge… this culture is the problem. Have you ever read Thomas Sowell books or do you only read things that fall in line with the way you want to think?

 

Whites like yourself really need to stop this garbage. Whites commit far more crime, and the white culture has created problems in ours. I don't read Sowells nonsense. I've got college degrees just like Sowell and I've worked in the black community, not on a predominantly white college campus getting funded white right wing grant money like Sowell. Seems that the only people who read Sowell are whites with anti-black racism. I have written a book myself and am working on another one. I'm telling you right now, that you will lose this argument because countless studies support what I have said. Those like you have memorized one sentence Dr. King spoke and repeat it like its all he ever said. But he said the quote below, and it rings true right now.

“It would neither be true or honest to say that the Negros problem is what it is because he is innately inferior or because he is basically lazy and listless or because he has not lifted himself by his own bootstraps. To find the origins of the Negro problem we must turn to the white man’s problem.”
-Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

 

We say the same thing. Only whites with race problems think we don't. But what do know is that whites have not experienced crimes committed against them by blacks, the black person admits to the crime and that black person getting away.

And whites are the main ones trying to put a criminal into the white house. So spare me the lie of white perfection.

 

I would really be interested in reading your book. We could start a thread on it as well if you would like. Sowell has many successful books and is highly credited. I’m surprised his name would make you post the most irrational post you have made thus far (in this thread at least).

He started out very very poor. He wasn’t just granted his success by whites. He earned every inch of it and was explored many ideologies before he settled where he is at now. The fact you admit to have not read his material I believe proves you haven’t looked at things objectively as he has being he has altered his view the more he did objective research. If I read your book would you be willing to read one of his?

 

Sowell is a joke in the black community. I don't read economists who try being sociologists since I graduated in sociology. But the top sociologist in this country William Julius Wilson, a black man roughly the same age and equally credentialled in his field carved up Sowells work years ago

HURTING THE DISADVANTAGED - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Irrational is how some whites endlessly suggest blacks read Sowell as if what he says is the gospel. But what he says is actually stupid, but t satisfies the need for whites t deny their role in the problems racism created.

 

Don't lie about not caring about skin color. If that were true your argument would not be so unbalanced.

As for your second sentence, tell that to whites who consistently resist arrest and live.

 

According to the National Crime Victimization Survey in 2002, robberies with white victims and black offenders were more than 12 times more common than the opposite.[56][57]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States

 

I have a better idea: let's stop making excuses for the sky high black rates of crime and illegitimacy.

 

According to the present definition "racism" consists of drawing attention to low average intelligence of blacks and the high rates of black crime and illegitimacy.

 

That article wasn’t even interesting. It was more or less an opinion piece with zero real world examples like Sowell puts in his books. I realize the portion I read (12 paragraphs) was not the whole thing but it’s all I could read for free. It really doesn’t discredit Sowell at all, again as far as I could read. It’s an opinion cause uses no real examples at all. There was no facts involved whatsoever.


I really would like to know what book you wrote so I can read it even if you choose not to take my objectively reading challenge. I can learn much more about your point of view there I am sure than these posts on a forum.

 

I may understand your point of view with greater clarity if you'd tell us what your opinion (and/or that of the "Black community") is about Charles Payne, a Black man and business network financial journalist who commands immense respect throughout the American financial community. Personally, although I'm as white 'as a sheet of paper', I hold him in great esteem and regard his viewpoints as accurate, insightful, and quite valuable.

What say you...?

 

Negroes continue to lag economically, despite vast anti poverty spending and affirmative action, because they tend to be less intelligent than whites and East Asians.

A racist is one who recognizes that Negroes are responsible for their own problems.

 

Actually, the problem has been laws and policies implemented by whites. Anti-poverty spending went mostly to whites. Affirmative Action policies benefitted white women more than anyone else as a result of white male backlash to the policy. East Asians have benefitted from the HH1B Visa that guarantees them corporate jobs. Man, you are really ignorant. You don't know what you're talking about, and you spew pure racist trash. Your posts are evidence of the very low intelligence you say blacks have.

 

Again, you cite another sellout. You only seem to cite blacks who repeat what you want to believe. There are other blacks with a more accurate assessment such as Shawn Rochester.



Shawn D. Rochester is the Managing Director of Trident Capital Group and CEO of Good Steward LLC (GSL).
Mr. Rochester is the Managing Director of Trident Capital Group Fund I, which invests in growth companies that have the potential to help create a more robust business infrastructure in Black and other economically disadvantaged communities. He was formerly President, Chief Executive Officer, and Chairman of Minority Equality Opportunities Acquisitions Inc. (MEOA), the first majority Black, Special Purpose Acquisition Company (SPAC) to trade on the NASDAQ. MEOA was created to execute a business combination with a minority owned, founded or led company and raised $126.5 million in its IPO.

Racism Has Cost Black Americans $70 Trillion Since Slavery (businessinsider.com)

 

Actually, I do agree with you that we are rapidly becoming a two-class society -- but it's not as a result of "racism". No, what we're seeing today is the dismantlement and dislocation of the entire Middle Class, composed of all three races, Edna.

In terms of 'tonnage' this affects Whites more, but only because Whites make up a larger percentage of the total population. This 'impoverishment-process' probably affects Blacks more, if only because as a segment of the population (13.8%), they're still working on adjusting their cultural realities that directly affect wealth-building practices. But more and more people of all races will be finding themselves 'at the bottom of the barrel'... and it's going to get crowded down there....

Today, all three races in this country are caught up in the throes of the computer/AI 'revolution' which will eliminate the need for workers in many of the Middle Class areas, and that will affect ALL of us... not just Blacks.

Never forget the one enduring axiom in any capitalist, free-market society -- You get what you are WORTH to the human labor market... no less, and no more. But you've got to have the skills, the education, and the ability to compete. Otherwise, it's the 'bottom of the barrel'.... And attempts to manipulate the job market with "DEI" scams will never work in the long-term.

 

No black man a white guy likes is worth noting. The fact a black man could looks at thing as if race was never part of the equation makes a black man racist to people like Mr @mad1961

I keep asking for his book he wrote and he won’t share either. Why wouldn’t he want people to read his book? It’s money in his pocket. I have been known for objective reading as well. I even have bought and read books objectively suggested on this very forum.

 

BS. You just want to believe Sowell because he validates your racist point of view. The man who wrote that article was Wiilliam Julius Wilson. Here is his background.

William Julius Wilson (born December 20, 1935) is an American sociologist, a professor at Harvard University, and an author of works on urban sociology, race, and class issues. Laureate of the National Medal of Science, he served as the 80th President of the American Sociological Association, was a member of numerous national boards and commissions. He identified the importance of neighborhood effects and demonstrated how limited employment opportunities and weakened institutional resources exacerbated poverty within American inner-city neighborhoods.

Wilson is Lewis P. and Linda L. Geyser University Professor at Harvard University.[4] He is one of 25 University Professors, the highest professional distinction for a Harvard faculty member.[5] After receiving a PhD from Washington State University in 1966, Wilson taught sociology at the University of Massachusetts Amherst, before joining the University of Chicago faculty in 1972.[5] In 1990 he was appointed the Lucy Flower University Professor and director of the University of Chicago's Center for the Study of Urban Inequality.

Wilson is the author of Power Racism and Privilege: Race Relations in Theoretical and Sociohistorical Perspectives (1973, 1976), The Declining Significance of Race: Blacks and Changing American Institutions (1978, 1980, 2012), winner of the American Sociological Association's Sydney Spivack Award; The Truly Disadvantaged: The Inner City, the Underclass, and Public Policy (1987, 2012), which was selected by the editors of the New York Times Book Review as one of the 16 best books of 1987,[8] and received The Washington Monthly Annual Book Award, the Society for the Study of Social Problems' C. Wright Mills Award and the American Political Science Association's Aaron Wildavsky Enduring Contribution Award; When Work Disappears: The World of the New Urban Poor (1996), which was selected as one of the notable books of 1996 by the editors of the New York Times Book Review and received the 1997 Hillman Prize and the American Political Science Association's Aaron Wildavsky Enduring Contribution Award; and The Bridge Over the Racial Divide: Rising Inequality and Coalition Politics. More recently, he is the co-author of There Goes the Neighborhood: Racial, Ethnic, and Class Tensions in Four Chicago Neighborhoods and Their Meaning for America (2006), and Good Kids in Bad Neighborhoods: Successful Development in Social Context (2006); and author of More than Just Race: Being Black and Poor in the Inner City (2009).

Honors
Past President of the American Sociological Association,[17] Wilson has received 45 honorary degrees, including honorary doctorates from Yale,[18] Princeton University, Columbia University, the University of Pennsylvania, Northwestern University, Johns Hopkins University, New York University, Bard College, Dartmouth College, and the University of Amsterdam in the Netherlands.[citation needed] A MacArthur Prize Fellow from 1987 to 1992, Wilson has been elected to the National Academy of Sciences, the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, the National Academy of Education, the American Philosophical Society, the Institute of Medicine, and the British Academy. In June 1996 he was selected by Time magazine as one of America's 25 Most Influential People.[19][20] In 1997, he received the Golden Plate Award of the American Academy of Achievement.[21] He is a recipient of the 1998 National Medal of Science,[22] the highest scientific honor in the United States, and was awarded the Talcott Parsons Prize in the Social Sciences by the American Academy of Arts and Sciences in 2003; the Daniel Patrick Moynihan Prize by the Annals of the American Academy of Political and Social Science in 2013; the Robert and Helen Lynd Award for Distinguished Career Achievement by the Community and Urban Section of the American Sociological Association in 2013; and the W.E.B. Du Bois Career of Distinguished Scholarship Award by the American Sociological Association in 2014, the highest award bestowed by the American Sociological Association.[23]

Other honors granted to Wilson include the Seidman Award in Political Economy[24] (the first and only non-economist to receive the award); the Golden Plate Achievement Award; the Distinguished Alumnus Award, Washington State University; the American Sociological Association's Dubois, Johnson, Frazier Award (for significant scholarship in the field of inter-group relations); the American Sociological Association's Award for Public Understanding of Sociology; Burton Gordon Feldman Award ("for outstanding contributions in the field of public policy") Brandeis University; and the Martin Luther King Jr. National Award (granted by the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, Los Angeles); the Diverse: Issues in Higher Education's John Hope Franklin Award; Everett Mendelsohn Excellence in Mentoring Award, Harvard University; and the Anisfield-Wolf Book Award for Lifetime Achievement in Nonfiction. He was designated a Walter Channing Cabot Fellow at Harvard University for 2009–2010. And in 2012, the Inequality, Poverty, and Mobility Section of the American Sociological Association renamed its Early Career Award as the William Julius Wilson Early Career Award.[25]

Wilson also served on a member of numerous national boards and commissions including, the Social Science Research Council, Spelman College, Bard College, National Humanities Center, Levy Economic Institute and Manpower Demonstration Research Corporation. He was previously the Chair of the Board of the Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences and of the Russell Sage Foundation.

William Julius Wilson - Wikipedia

Wilson is imminently more qualified and knowledgeable on issues of race than Sowell and if there is anyone black that YOU should read on such matters it is him and not Sowell.