The Myth of the Southern Strategy Part II

You lost this point over a year ago, yet are repeating it now? You're not much better than a LW in this regard. Not going to bother debunking it again. Suffice it to say that 1. 80% of the country could then be considered "white supremacists" by today's definition and applying today's mores. 2. You are buying the EXTENSIVE, highly abstract and circumstantial dirt-digging done on these SCOTUS appointments without even considering the other side, just what your googling of LW sites tells you.

 

He knows this full well, just floundering around in his union hall LW style trying to bog down a discussion he knows, based on the threads linked, is a loser for his side.

 

There is no question that Richard Nixon turned out to be one of the most liberal (and paranoid) presidents in US history, but that in no way disproves the Southern Strategy that the Republicans used to virtually cleanse Congress of Southern Democrats after some of them, notably Lyndon Johnson, got religion and converted from racists to integrationists. No matter how much info and many pages of pretend research someone posts on Nixon's liberal agenda as president, it does not change the fact that the Republican Southern Strategy to take over congressional seats was based on racism, and it worked.

 

You dealt with exactly NONE of the monstrous amounts of material damning any Southern Strategy to attract racists into the GOP as a fabricated hoax linked in this thread, so your opinion is worth cow flop.

 

I'm glad that you agree that there are "monstrous amounts of material damning any Southern Strategy to attract racists into the GOP." The "Southern Strategy to attract racists into the GOP" definitely deserves to be damned to the deepest ring of Dantes' Hell. It's so seldom that someone agrees with me in this forum, so I thank you for doing so.

 

What a line of (*)(*)(*)(*)ing bull(*)(*)(*)(*)!!! Congressionaly the South did not turn red until the 90s. Stop making (*)(*)(*)(*) up. No matter how many times you repeat the leftists lie does not make it "fact". The blue south did not turn red. The blue south simply (*)(*)(*)(*)ing died. Their kids who grew up after segregation saw no need to vote for conceded (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) Democrats.

Your entire argument is based on your own bigotry. You see the south as a scene from Deliverance. The idea of a thriving economy, suburban shopping malls, and soccer mom's in SUVs is beyond your narrow comprehension. The idea of the Southern Strategy makes sense to you because of your ignorance of the South.

 

White Flag noted.

For S&G, here are some of the -real- reasons the South switched from the Democrat Party, I have posted them in threads linked in this thread, but they so thoroughly debunk the Southern Strategy that I will post them again.

A few REAL reasons the white Southern vote changed to the GOP:

1. Economic reasons, the South was poverty ridden for over 100 years after the CW. As it regained prosperity in the 60s to date, more and more voters found the lower tax policies of the GOP more appealing than the high tax policies of the Democrats.
2. Abortion, the South is more antiabortion than elsewhere due to several factors. The Party of Abortion lost lots of Southern votes on its persistence in supporting completely unregulated abortions.
3. Viet Nam, the South, the cradle of our country's military, perceived Democrats as getting us into Viet Nam and not bringing the war to a conclusion that would save American life. Endless Democrat disrespect of our military and soldiers... that goes on today still... didn't help matters.
4. Youth Culture and 60s Libertinism, the South is not fond of hippies, SJWs and their trivial, spoiled issues, often entirely fabricated like feminism for example, and indulging notions like "free love" does not set well with more religious people.
5. Gun Rights, nuff said.
6. Destroying the Nuclear Family Unit, via subsidized AND ENCOURAGED out of wedlock children we all must pay for on an institutional scale.
7. Butt of Jokes, racist labeling, The MSM branch of the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-MSM Complex has been making the South the butt of unfair jokes and generalizations, and the LW today constantly refers to "the racist south" at every opportunity. It's all over these boards. That kind of pure bigotry doesn't earn votes from Southerners.

Those are the real reasons, unlike the horsesht Southern Strategy, they are well-documented and understood. But sure, LW, keep spouting utter manure about dog (bigfoot whistles) and the most scanty abstract kind of circumstantial evidence. Not only does it make you look doctrinaire and ignorant when you do it, it loses you more and more votes.

 

I qm not interested in, nor will I be bothred with defending an argument I did not make.,

Oh, and since you asked, here is that document you keep hoping doesn't exist.

http://thenewyorker.typepad.com/online__georgepacker/files/dividing_the_democrats1.pdf

 

I pointed out your false claims and cherry picked facts already, and I was just getting started.

The CRA of 1957 was a toothless political gimmick.

Yet right wingers and apoligists for all the southern Republicans who inherited their seats from segregationist Democrats (the ones pushing voter ID laws and gerrymandering now), all point out to this toothless act as a seminal event.

 

I have frequently noted that people who do not have command of the facts or the gift of logical reason resort to name-calling, insults, unsupported statements, and bad language. It's a debating technique employed by those intellectually incapable of participating in a discussion.

 

It still doesn't. I didn't see the words "Southern Strategy" anywhere.

 

Still waiting for you to point out one false claim or cherry picked fact.

Why would you say it was a toothless political gimmick? It was written because of the Supreme Courts ruling in Brown vs the Board of Education. Just because as I explained in the OP, JFK and LBJ who were both against Civil Rights for blacks made it toothless by taking out the enforcement mechanisms, that doesn't make it a political gimmick. A seminal event, eh?

Who is apologizing for Southern Republicans? Voter ID laws were first pushed by black democrats in Rhode Island. Gerrymandering is named for a Governor from Massachusetts way back.

Republicans didn't invent Gerrymandering.

 

Well stated!

 

Thank you.

Hadn't seen that before.

 

You think I (*)(*)(*)(*)ing care. I gave you a fact about when the south turned red congressionally. Hate you break it to you your case is nothing but (*)(*)(*)(*)ing bigotry with more facts. It makes sense to you because you have a bigoted view of the south.

 

You're new here. I already did.