The New Climate Reality

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  1. EMH

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    The trend is obvious - co2 does nothing.
     
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    For some reason, the AGW faithful aren't aware of logarithmic limits....
     
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    They are also unable to understand the difference between data and fudge....
     
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    We can all see what you did. you cherry picked a very warm year and used it to claim that was the warming peak and everything after is cooling. But we can all also see that with the exception of 2006 the temperature is still higher than every previous year.
    This has to be the clumsiest climate bluff I've ever seen.
     
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    Try living on a planet without it.
    Oh, bring a coat.
     
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    Mars has a big chunk of co2 for you. Surely you will be warm there...
     
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    If the underlying theory behind that post is correct, the cooling trend will continue for several decades.
     
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    They fudge data. In 2005, they fudged both the satellites and balloons, and created "warming" in the atmosphere that never existed...
     
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    Another claimed climate catastrophe turns out to be a false alarm.

    GBR, Indian Ocean, South China Sea Corals Have Experienced No Obvious Modern Warming
    By Kenneth Richard on 21. October 2021

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    New temperature reconstructions using coral skeletons as proxies reveal there has been no apparent net warming in the Great Barrier Reef, central Indian Ocean, and South China Sea since the 19th century – or even in recent decades.
    Coral skeletons can be used as proxies to reconstruct 1870s-present sea surface temperatures “throughout the Great Barrier Reef”. Evidence of dramatic warming aligning with the post-1940s rise in CO2 emissions is absent in the reconstructions.

    Wu et al., 2021 . . .
     
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    Mars has nowhere near as much as Earth. Try Venus you should get a nice tan there.
     
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    I really wish that were true. Wouldn't it be wonderful if a Solar cooling bought us the time we need to adjust. Sadly not for many reasons.
     
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    You say that, while you're flat out refusing to prove that what the figures are of the average global temperature.
    The exact numbers how much things are above average are out there. And it figures you're not posting them.
    It would show that you're wrong.
     
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    We shall see.
    Solar Update September, 2021
    2021 › 09 › 22 › solar-update-september-2021
    area by solar hemisphere 1985 – 2021 ... Breaking down solar activity by hemisphere shows that solar activity ... relative length of the solar cycles. ... Figure 6: F10.7 flux for solar cycles 19 to 25 aligned

    Our planet’s temperature peaked in 2016 and has been in a disciplined decline since. It is in a channel 0.5°C wide with a slope of -0.03°C per annum. The atmosphere had been warming at 0.013°C per annum according to Dr Roy Spencer’s work. If the established cooling trend continues it will only take another decade to get back to the temperatures of the early 1980s. With the cooling trend firmly established, the question is: Can the proximate cause be found in the solar record?

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    Figure 1: NCDC global temperature anomaly 1979 – 2021
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    National Climatic Data Center
    https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov


    NOAA's National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) is responsible for preserving, monitoring, assessing, and providing public access to the Nation's treasure of ...
     
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    I am not seeing you post the average global temperature that prove that you're right. You keep on posting 10 months you cherry picked out of + 400 months, which I explained you are wrong to which you got no reply.

    And it figures you're not posting them.
    It would show that you're wrong.



    Something like this:
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    https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature

    It shows that having dips every now and then is just normal.
    The line from 1960 clearly shows the temp goes up for 80 years straight.
     
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    Nope. No more then the, “it was cold last night, must not be CC.” No one with any science knowledge at all looks at a “cherry picked trend” over just 40 years when the IR was nearly 200 years, and declares anything.
     
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    "NCDC global temperature anomaly 1979 – 2021" Case closed.
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    The trend is obvious.
    ha ha
    Have no idea why you’re hooking your wagon to this graph and an institution that disagrees with nearly every point you try to make. It’s a real head scratcher.
     
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    I follow the data.
     
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    All of that warming is from urban heat sink effect, measuring temps on the surface of growing urban areas....

    Atmosphere not warming
    Oceans not warming
    No net ice melt
    No breakout in canes
    No ocean rise
     
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    Just make sure you understand what the "data" actually is....

    Most of it is fudged....
     
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    Ha ha
    Why don’t you start at 11 pm last night. Really.
     
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    Gee, I used the same source you did….you don’t trust them anymore ?
     
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    Follow it where ? They all disprove you…everyone of them.
     
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    I provided source data and a link. You provided neither. We have no way to confirm your source.
     

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