The New Climate Reality

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  1. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Intermittent and at great cost.
    Excess costs of UK Weather Dependent Renewable Energy: 2020
    2020 › 04 › 18 › excess-costs-of-uk-weather-dependent-renewable-energy-2020
    The Renewable Energy Foundation time series data for the UK 2002 – 2019 ... The Renewable Energy Foundation ... show the progress of UK Weather Dependent Renewables. ... According the Renewable Energy Foundation data, 2019
     
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    Not that intermittent. 45% over the year and we're nowhere near finished building yet
     
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    I think you are whistling past the graveyard.
    Power Markets In Crisis
    2021 › 09 › 18 › power-markets-in-crisis
    low wind speeds across much of Europe in the last few weeks, meaning reduced outputs of wind power. This ... Alarm bells have been ringing in European and UK power markets this month, as electricity prices surge

    Alarm bells have been ringing in European and UK power markets this month, as electricity prices surge to record levels. Here day-ahead prices are triple those of a year ago, and European markets are seeing the same happening, a sign of serious instability in European grids.

    The immediate trigger has been low wind speeds across much of Europe in the last few weeks, meaning reduced outputs of wind power. This has led to a shortage of power on the grid, and a consequent spiking of prices. This sort of thing occasionally happens in winter when demand is high, but is unheard of in summer months, indicating that something is going badly wrong.

    But this problem is not a one-off. It is much more deep seated, and has been building up for years. UK wholesale electricity prices have doubled since this time last year. There are many factors, including rising demand for natural gas from Asian countries as they rebuild their economies. Normally this would incentivise higher production of gas, but this has been discouraged in Europe in recent years, and seemingly now also in the US. . . .
     
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    UK electricity prices have been artificially low for some time. Companies battling for customers failed to set aside any contingency for price variations and are now unable to smooth out pricing. Added to this a worldwide gas hike.
    But this is just a bump in the road, as we build more and more turbines and solar farms across Europe and increase our interconnectors we will get the cover we need.
    You doom mongers will become hollow voices.
     
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    No one is questioning the need for energy........It is the TYPE of energy that is being focused on that is the issue.
     
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    Like Jeremiah.
    Why 100% Renewable Energy Is Less Realistic Than a Unicorn
    2019 › 09 › 18 › why-100-renewable-energy-is-less-realistic-than-a-unicorn
    world leaders meet at the United Nations Climate Action Summit next week, boosting renewable energy and ... expensive and can’t keep the lights on 24/7. The first argument is wilting as renewables become cost-competitive
     
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    Heard a very good argument in defence of China yesterday.
    That they are the worlds manufacturer so its inevitable they need more energy. Perhaps we should measure carbon footprint based on consumption rather than production.
    How about an energy consumption tax.
     
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    Fossil fuels will remain the primary source of electricity generation through the 21st century.
    Europe’s Energy Crisis Better Wake America Up
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    The overall effect of these anti-fossil-fuel policies on livelihoods, living standards, health and life spans will be profoundly negative. Countless people will perish, many of them cold and jobless in…
     
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    This will not end well.
    Texas State Geologist Scott Tinker: The Bad Assumptions Underpinning COP26 and the Impending Energy Train Wreck
    David Middleton
    Guest “Reality can be a harsh teacher” by David Middleton
    The world is already in an “energy crisis” of sorts due to the tremendous misallocation of capital from functioning energy infrastructure to mythical energy infrastructure. This has largely been driven by the false perception that a massive reduction in greenhouse gas emissions is the only way to save our planet (cue George Carlin). As if this wasn’t bad enough, the COP 26 path “to net-zero emissions” is “paved with” nothing other than “bad assumptions”. . . .
     
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    Naah
     
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    Environment Alert: The world will burn through its carbon budget in 11 years unless nations act on climate change, new analysis shows

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    Powered by surging emissions from natural gas and coal, global greenhouse gas pollution has almost completely rebounded from pandemic lows, scientists reported Wednesday. The research shows that countries have powered their economic recoveries largely with fossil fuels, leaving humanity with room to emit just 420 gigatons of additional carbon dioxide before the world exceeds an important threshold for catastrophic warming."


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/clim...Q.VsM4LNmh95wERbznGKt2GTfZq_PnWeQykT2If5flr5Q
     
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    Yawn. Yet another milestone to be passed without anyone noticing.
     
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    Nothing to see here.
    Climate Change Is No Catastrophe

    Michael Shellenberger, UnHerd

    ". . . Here are the facts: in Europe, emissions in 2020 were 26% below 1990 levels. In the United States, emissions in 2020 were 22% below 2005 levels. Emissions are likely to start declining, too, in developing nations, including China and India, within the next decade. Most nations’ emissions will be bigger this year than last, due to post-Covid economic growth. But global emissions are still likely to peak within the next decade. . . .
    But again, it’s worth reminding ourselves of the facts: there has been a 92% decline in the per decade death toll from natural disasters since its peak in the 1920s. In that decade, 5.4 million people died from natural disasters. In the 2010s, just 0.4 million did. Globally, the five-year period ending in 2020 had the fewest natural disaster deaths of any five-year period since 1900. And this decline occurred during a period when the global population nearly quadrupled — and temperatures rose more than 1°C degree centigrade above pre-industrial levels. . . . "
     
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    If you live in a bubble
     
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    After the 30th or 40th "last chance" deadline passed without incident in recent decades I concluded the sky is not, in fact, falling.
     
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    The numerous prediction failures since the 1960's are mostly from the far left ideologues who have a near 100% prediction failure rate to maintain which is why they have to be mentally ill to continue this awesome failure rate for years to come, propaganda based brainwashing does work.
     
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    Those and the 100's of scientific institutes across the globe. Though I expect you and Jack know better.
     
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    My post cited peer-reviewed research. The predictive failures are public knowledge. No one claims to "know better." We present data and the public record.
     
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    So now it turns out that chewing up forests to generate electricity may not be considered so green after all.
    Oops. No More Subsidies for Drax
    Charles Rotter
    Drax has been booted from an investment index of clean energy companies as doubts over the sustainability of its wood-burning power plant begin to mount within the financial sector. . . .
     
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    LOL.

    Yeah they make a lot of failed predictions.

    Besides you just employed the worn out Consensus fallacy (LINK) which is indication that you have no actual counterpoint to offer, but I don't expect you to know better.
     
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    What the U.S. can learn from the U.K. about wind power


    "As President Joe Biden looks to pour billions into the development of coastal wind farms, the United States can look to how Europe’s windiest nation, the United Kingdom, transformed its energy grid for an example of how to proceed. The U.K. has the most offshore turbines in the world."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...aGOMn8ExOzhLnvHCTNobNfUnYWS2zpOD1H6Yjhfb4AAAA
     
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    The lies just keep on coming.
    Google News Claims Global Warming Is Stealing the American Experience – As Temperatures Remain Flat
    TEMPERATURE RECORD NOVEMBER 7, 2021
    Among the top search results today for “climate change,” Google News is promoting an article by the Guardian claiming global warming “stole” the American experience from many people during the past few years – as official data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration shows no recent warming in the United States. The misinformation promoted by Google News and climate activists is indisputably contradicted by the scientific data. . . .
     
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