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  1. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's the same with gas, once a hurricane warning is issued all the gas stations in the area jack up their prices and when they reopen after the storm, there are long lines and hot tempers, so my solution is, once I see what looks like a hurricane heading this way and long before the watches or warnings are posted, I town my generator over to the local station and fill up the 100 gallon tank on the trailer then tow it back home after which I tow my second trailer over to the station and fill up the 100 gallon tank on it, that way I am sitting on 200 gallons of gas should the power go out for a couple of weeks and before they jack up the prices and gouge folks.

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    If the storm pass's not problem I just re-pump the gas into our trucks until I use it all up.
     
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    The generator is the next expense my family will be making. Not sure if we should get a transportable or one implanted. Pros and cons for both
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Oh god, I've stumbled into a nest of preppers.

    At least rattlers don't try to sell you 25 years of food.

    I live light and mobile. I have a nice truck and good house insurance. I am a hundred miles gone when the rare hurricane strikes. Disasters are vacations for me and I don't have to shoot anybody, though I think that's the fun part for you lot.
     
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    I would have one permanent one but since I work with the Clewiston EOC and we have public events here and there, I built a trailer mounted genset which has a 43 foot Will-Burt pneumatic mast mounted to it, this allows to be used as a COW (Communications On Wheels), I can tow it to an event, set the outriggers, send up the mast and using an onboard Motorola UHF repeater provide local handheld coverage for the entire event without having to find commercial power and can also provide power for our command post which we set up in a large tent adjacent to the genset.

    As for noise the exhaust system I designed is literally so quiet you cannot hear the genset running 10 feet away.
     
  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I've lived in a fairly isolated part of a rural area probably at least twice of your lifetime. I've never had any functioning firearm, nor any trouble.

    What are you anyway, Sith? You're always asking for these absolutes which don't exist anywhere
     
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    I have to be prepared, as an EOC volunteer I am expected to be ready to get out and help those in my community recover from any disaster that has hit us and or anything else they call us out for.
     
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    You profess to be a master of the internet. Research ‘Natural Rights’ with criteria that include the writings of Thomas Acquinas and John Locke. Then in relation to the US Constitution, search for ‘Natural Rights’ and US Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution, and Thomas Jefferson inspiration. Lots material out there.
     
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    By the way I don't consider myself to be a prepper, which I try to do is be ready to hit the ground after a disaster and be able to get out and help those less fortunate then I am, I don't want a single mother with a bunch of children up on the roof of her home laying out tarps when her shingle are blown away, no let her stay inside and watch the children and let us gut up on the roof and cover it with tarps provided to us for free by FEMA, likewise I don't want to see elderly folks standing in line in the hot sun trying to get some food and water, so we find them and sign them up in advance and afterward we stop by and make sure they are ok and drop off lots of non-perishable food and water, which again is provided by FEMA to us no charge and is then staged at fire stations prior to a storm so we have easy access to the supplies, plus a lot of people out here have wells, no power, no water, so again we deliver what they need, hook a generator to their home for awhile allowing them to stock up on water to flush toilets, heat some up and let the family take a shower after days of not being able to and then leave them with a dozen cases of bottled water and a few coolers of ice so no one gets sick drinking water from a canal.

    It helps in many ways, we keep people at home where they more comfortable, keep them off the roads as many cannot drive too well and there is no gas available anyhow while the power is out and keep people from getting sick from drinking contaminated water.

    The idea is to prevent problems, not solve them later.
    I find it quite rewarding to be able to help those in need and all I have to do is give my time and use my truck to achieve such.
     
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    By the way pros and cons, portable, cons, requires gas, lots of gas which you must have in advance, with a safe place to store it and has a shelf life, noise, and where are you going to keep the generator running during the storm. Upside, portable, can be used for more things than a disaster.

    Fixed, cons, pricey, needs to run on propane or natural gas, propane needs a fairly large tank you probably will not be able to get propane delivered if he power is out as they cannot transfer propane from a storage tank to a bobtail truck without power, if you have natural gas that is truly the way to go. Upside quiet, reliable if installed properly, that is to say higher than a flood area/zone, easy to start push a button and you are running or with an automatic transfer switch that will be done for you.

    Personally I have a portable on a trailer built into a sound reduction housing using what is known as an interlock which prevents feedback from the genset back into the utilities grid.
     
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    Nest of preppers? No, I just don't abandon my homestead because of one of the many yearly storms (not rare here. Its literally something that happens every year at least once if not twice) and so have a minor amount of resources with which to stand self sufficient for a week or 3 as any prudent person would.

    Again with the projection sir. Seek help.
     
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    Very few of the bold and very uninformed anti-gunners who so often accuse those who are prepared, of being "murders in the wait," totally fail to understand how high the suicide rate of those who have justifiably taken a life actually is for a law abiding person who pulled the trigger on a criminal, as doing so turns that persons life and their families lives upside down and inside out.

    These law abiding people do not have the pathological warped mind of a criminal and killing someone so effects their life many simply cannot live with what they had to do to survive and take their own lives as a result.

    Then there is the civil legal problems, there are many law abiding people who have lost everything in lawsuits filed against them by the dead criminals family and have no doubt there many lawyers connected with anti-gun groups willing to take the criminals families case and crush the law abiding gun owner for defending him or herself.
     
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    The phrase "an isolated part of a rural area" would suggest the state of residence on the part of yourself is of a conservative nature, meaning republicans are in charge of the state, and where firearms ownership is quite prevalent. Perhaps such is why no significant problems have actually been experienced on the part of yourself.

    Then do not be attempting to tell others what they do and do not need, based on the limited experience on the part of yourself, since there are no absolutes to be found in the world. Wherever there is life, specifically humans, there is the very real possibility of whatever system is in place going down and revealing just how vulnerable everyone truly is.

    Everyone believes their personal situation is secure enough to protect them from whatever harm the real world is capable of presenting them with, until it is proven otherwise and reality sets in, demonstrating that they are woefully unprepared for the real world. Once they realize they are vulnerable they are prone to panic, hysteria, and paranoia.
     
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    All the more reason for legal reforms that prohibit such lawsuits from being filed. If one is engaged in illegal activity at the time of their death, their survivors should not be able to file suit for damages against the one accused of causing said damages.
     
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    I fully agree, but the personal injury attorneys lobby fights every attempt to enact such reforms, suing people is a serious money making business.

    This is one of the prime reason I advise anyone who wishes to carry for self defense to purchase what is rather inexpensive self defense insurance such as Carry Guard.
     
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    I live in a very rural, very conservative AG area and the majority of our politicians are Democrats, however over the past two years three of them have left the party and became Republicans, it seems the local Democratic Campaign Committee (DCC) has instructed the local politicians they need to begin toeing the new Democratic socialist party line, which includes being anti-gun or lose campaign funding, our Sheriff was the first to leave, as he is an ultra strong Second Amendment person and is on record promoting the idea of citizens of this county should all become concealed carry holders and arm up, which many are already, the next one was my districts County Commissioner, who fully understood if he went anti-gun, he had a snowballs chance in He** of getting reelected, the last one is another County Commissioner who has not gone on record publically as to why he jumped parties, but probably for the same reason.

    I find it odd that the local DCC has adopted a blanket policy, that they should have known would not play well outside of a very small part of the county known as Harlem.

    The only thing that I can think of is they had to adopt that policy or lose funding from the state DCC.
     
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    So......only applies to Americans then??
     
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    More appropriately, the united states is the only nation that actually recognizes the concept as being valid.
     
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    As the concept relates to American law? Yes
     
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    Just how the fact i live in "an isolated part of a rural area" somehow suggests that my state is conservative is truly beyond me. In any case the State is Maryland, aka "California of the East" We are as blue as yellow dog democrats get.
     
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    The Constitution, yes. Natural Rights, according to people like Locke, Thomas Acquinas, and other ascribers... they are universal.

    To some extent they were incorporated into the UNs broader 1948 Declaration of human rights.
    https://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/index.html

    Now, whether God bestowed or not, there seems to be broad sentiment for recognition and adoption of basic universal human rights.... but, how many nations actually follow observing them?
     
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    Then where in these “natural rights” does it say I can and should own a gun?
     
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    Thank you for posting that.
     
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    IF it is so inexpensive why then does not the NRA offer it with membership?
     
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    It's part of being to allowed to stay alive, is that really too complicated for you to understand?
     
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    So where do these “natural rights” cover gun ownership?
     
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