The old and the ugly

Some of the most violent, disturbed predators and harassers I've ever encountered were poor and attractive.

 

You REALLY don't get it. (Are you sure you're not a dood?)

 

I agree, those are two different arenas, however, I personally think there is a distinction between what Weinstein is accused of and what Franken did. Now granted, I do not know Al Franken personally and I could be damn well wrong, but on the surface I can relate to Franken's predicament (at least as I perceive his public image).

The key word you mentioned is "colleagues" above, because people like Franken are natural jokesters, I think their behaviour, while technically falls within the definition of sexual harassment, the context is completely different. Now I understand completely that it's not about what the accused believes was his intent, it's the perception of the victim that counts, but that can indeed be a slippery slope.

I remember years ago on an episode of the Drew Carey show they dealt with this issue where Drew was reprimanded for sexual harassment because of him spreading around the office a cartoon of a worm trying to hump a french fry. The woman who made the complaint felt that cartoon was too "suggestive". While silly, this is a dilemma that exists in almost every office situation I have ever worked in. Now, I'm not saying that Franken's actions are similar in anyway, but I did see that interview with the LA radio host he made those allegations, and it makes me wonder where is the line.

This is something I think women need to address too.

 

Maybe you have a way of attracting those?

 

Ever hear of the terms 'GOLD DIGGER' or "TROPHY WIFE"?

 

If the guy is truly an adonis, I have seen some women settle for that, in which case he becomes a sortof "boy-toy".

As for the...

How old are you?

Now I'm not saying that there aren't guys out there looking for a "traditional wife", but I do find that expectation to be going out the window for most men. I think most people are looking for equals that will fit however they define their lifestyle.

 

Ha! Made me laugh!

I do think blatant comedy is different than harassment...it really can be a sticky situation....as far as Franken and people in the business of comedy, seems that if joking around or funny photos are crossing the line, than a lot of people are going to be in trouble.

There's a video of Tweeden and she is slapping the butt of a musician in that show...was that planned, is that art, is it okay? I mean, it can get ridiculous and really detracts from serious allegations.

 

Agreed!

That's what I find a bit frightening about this social #MeToo thing. The ridiculous gets mixed in with the serious stuff, and the societal implications can have far greater blowback than we can imagine.

We are a society with a horde of contradictory mixed messages. The social institutions we had in place that taught us the decorum of how to interact in civilized society are gone and replaced by the new "anything goes" of the Trump era. I get it, much of this is payback for far too much political correctness gone amuck, but that does not mean we need to keep swinging wildly like a flag in a hurricane.

 

Wha?