The Palestinians will try again to be declared a state in the U.N. this week—

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  1. Jack Napier

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    Refuses to watch any visual media now, apparently.

    Even courts accept visual media evidence.

    :)
     
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    Your posts speak for themselves.
    You have often called for "Zionist Jews´" to be expelled from banking and law.
    We have all seen it.
    Why do you strangely go back and forth? Does it depend on the time of day?
     
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    Depends on whether it is prejudicial and how it was obtained, in which case they do not permit it.
    Your sources would not meet the standard required. Surprise!
     
  4. Jack Napier

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    Tell me, fan of Israel and Zionism, why is it okay for Israel to make a non Zionist party, or org illegal, but not okay for anyone else to say they DON'T want them in our politics?
     
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    Liebe, to be fair, I am not the one that claims there is no reality, and that there is no truth.

    That is you.
     
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    Unlike your you tube contributions I suppose...*wink*
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We have something in common. we both do not apologize for telling the truth. Of course, you also don't apologize for distorting that truth, subverting that truth and making up the "truth", so you don't do any apologizing at all.

    You view me as being an apologist for zionism because I call you out on your virulent hatred, your ridiculous conspiracy theories, your fradualent accusations, your dispicable and often outre distortions. You can't even define the zionists you supposedly hate and that infect your beloved body politic. And that certainly is not a display of truth or honesty.

    Fact is, if your anti-zionism was purely anti-zionism I wouldn't be nearly as aggressive in defence, because as you are aware but refuse to admit, I have my own beefs with nationalist/religious zionists, vis a vis the WB, jerusalem and the occupation.

    But the fact of the matter is, that you use "anti-zionism" as a cover for simple jew hatred.

    Your holocaust denial, your constant references to jew hating, neo-nazi, and white nationalist sources, your regurgitation of lies and slanderous unsubstantiated accusations, your total and complete failure to acknowledge any culpability of arabs/ muslims/ palestinians under any circumstances, your belief in ZOG, and your protocols inspired global jewish conspiracy theories all at up to jew hatred.

    Or to be boring your raving anti-semitism.

    So its no wonder you mistake my utter contempt and total opposition for your positions as being zionist apologetics. You are incapable of viewing valid criticism and the shredding of your cherished beliefs in any other light.
     
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    Yup...starts off as if he is going to engage in something of substance, goes for full Hasbara attack mode.
     
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    I said that there is no, one truth as it is a subjective experience of facts. I cannot help it that you are unable to understand that.
    I advised you read Hawkins but I know you prefer to watch you tube.
     
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    Please dont leave , you've confirmed and made every one see how obnoxious extrnmists right wing Zionists israeis are and what Palestinianian are up against.


    IMO - Bendor, contrary to whatever you've intended , you've showed us Israelies true colours and its racist discrimiation against non-|Jews.

    Stick around and show us more.



    ... tata for now
     
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    Okay.

    So there was no direct orders or written policy to exterminate world Jewry, right?

    Or is that an absolute and fixed truth....:giggle:
     
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    Another spurious comparison.

    Israel bans political parties that incite racism (kahane chai, Kach et.al.). the Israeli supreme court ruled that a change in the election law that banned some arab parties from participating in the election due to a) incitement to violence, b) support for terrorist groups c) refusal to recognize Israel's right to exist, was illegal and struck down that amendment in 2009.

    Since these nefarious zionists infesting your body politic are not a singular political party, how exactly would you outlaw or ban people who happen to be "zionists" (i.e. supporting Israel's right to exist). Would it only be the jewish zionists? or would you also ban all the other non-jewish zionists?

    You continue to get twisted into dicombobulated contradictory contortions. Sometimes its sad and other times its hilarious.

    Explain your thinking jack, how do you a) define what a zionist is and b) get rid of them?

    I'll wait for your non answer.
     
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    Contrary to what you contend, Bendor does not represent all israelis, no matter how much you may wish it.

    Its like saying that you and jack represent all scots or brits or whatever. As equally a telling indictment I should say.
     
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    @Marlowe.

    The Jews will be SEETHING that Germany, who is usually down on their knees to them, did not join the WEALTH OF NATIONS that voted no.

    To abstain is as good as defiance, in their minds. Angela Sherkel must have been itching to vote no, but, it is bad enough really, the position that Germany have been placed in.

    Germans are educated and taught shame, perpetual shame, all the time, they are not encouraged to feel pride or national identity. Imagine, for the next 70 yrs, making sure every single Jew, in every walk of life, got to know every single crime committed by Jews, passed off as 'educational'.

    In 2003, there was some talk of German stopping the cash cow to Israel, but AFAIK, Israel still tap them for 'compensation'.

    Most distrubing of all.

    Now, you know I do not accept the simple narrative of evil Nazi's, and evil Germans, who, even during the height of the war, robotically kept on just 'killing Jews', but fine, let us entertain the Eli Roth style stories, for one minute.

    Soap made from Jews, shrunken heads, defecating diamonds, zombie flesh, let's just accept it all for a second.

    Well then, two things..

    If all of that is true, why have Jews turned into such utter thieving, lying, murdering bastards, in a foreign land? What excuse do they have? Are they blaming the 'holocaust' for how they behave?

    If all of that is true, then rather than Angela Shecke putting up some too late useless monument to gypsies, maybe, just maybe, Germany should stop GIFTING hardware and the means to cause large scale death, to a state like Israel...

    Just a thought from a hateful Nazi that is drinking coffee with the tears of Jews as water.
     
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    True.

    But more of a true reflection of the Lieberman's etc.
     
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    I truly like nothing better than when Jews like Hbender/ The Doctor etc . + the rest of the pro-Israel /supporters - camp show their true colours .
     
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    @Open question then, since we got the 'ah but there is a difference' from Jonsa.

    Tell me, fan of Israel and Zionism, why is it okay for Israel to make a non Zionist party, or org illegal, but not okay for anyone else to say they DON'T want them in our politics?
     
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    I agree not 100 % but - IMO - a suficient percentage of those who determine Jewish policies towarda Palestinians + gentiles , in general.
     
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    Obviously, since they keep voting the seed of Irgun terrorists and mafia in, knowing they will keep on with the occupation etc, all of those are compliicit, imo.
     
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    I see your :giggle: and raise you a :omfg:

    Like the nazis would be stupid enough to actually write it down. You've heard Himmler's pose speeches. He even says it is not to be talked about, written about, reported about.

    then again, I guess the museum of an extinct race that hitler had planned for prague and where he had amassed some hundreds of thousands of jewish artifacts wasnt an indication of his plans.

    then again, you should read mein kampf. Addie lays out exactly what he thinks of jews and that destroying the status quo of jewish control and purifying aryan bloodlines is of primary importance in establishing a new order. so perhaps before you go off half cocked about how it was never hitler's or nazisms aim to exterminate the jews, you should do some additional research. I'm sure that you can find all kinds of stuff at those websites you constantly source, but disclaim any philosophical affiliation.
     
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    So let me see. It was all done...verbally...all of it?

    Oral law, as it were, sounds almost Kosher style, that does..

    And their motive for 'not writing it down'....because they felt it would incriminate them after the fact? Ha ha! Well, for one thing, they expected to win, not lose, and for another thing, the premise is stupid, since history shows that this would have been a juvenille way to think you would dodge war crimes trials, lest you lose the war..

    Do you really think they were THAT thick.?
     
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    why would they be "SEETHING"? Imagine that germans were not taught about the crimes of their parents and grandparents. Is that something youd' rather? Are you suggesting that Nazism and what the Nazis did should be relegated to the pages of history and forgotten?

    Actually, the compensation wasn't remotely close to what the jews lost. It was an agreement openly entered into by the Germans.
    It was not a jewish plot to squeeze money out of them for compensation, just like the palestinians will get compensation for being refugees (or their government will).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reparations_Agreement_between_Israel_and_West_Germany

    Why on earth would you accept such apocryphal stories as sopa, zombie flesh, shrunken heads (you forgot lampshades and book bindings) for even an nano second? BTW defacating diamonds was actually true - its been a common practice of prisoners to use their anus for hiding stuff for hundreds of years.



    Its not, so why are you pretending?

    Sorry bubby, but Israel ain't a foreign land to jews no matter what you think. Much to your chagrin Israel exists. Not only does it exist but it also has the means to continue to exist despite whatever hostilities its enemies might wish to engage in. I'm glad to see that you are now using jews instead of zionists - a little truth in your lexicon is refreshing. They most certainly don't blame the holocaust for how they behave, they behave that way because they aren't going to be pushed around by anybody anymore - simple really. And given Israel has been surrounded by hostility since its inception, being belligerent and truculent is perfectly understandable within the context of human nature. Or do you consider Israelis something less than human beings?

    has israel stolen land - yes. Has Israel lied - yes. Has Israel murdered - certainly not as policy but it has caused numerous deaths. So what's your point? Name a government on the planet that hasn't stolen (if not land certainly property and baksheesh), that hasn't lied, that hasn't murdered. Their enemies have been doing it for decades right along side Israel. Or have you failed to notice?

    It has come to an end. You should try to keep up.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4306388,00.html

    excellent metaphoric wet dream jack. You like those.
     
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    agreed.
     
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    What about Mein Kampf?

    It is NOT proof that 6mill Jews were killed, on purpose, and as part of daily life.

    Whatever else you believe it to be, or not be, it is not proof.
     
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    Who, along with Benny (who in practice is just as demented), have popular support among Israeli Jews, who know full well what both are like, and what they stand for.

    Thus...they do not even have the out ball of later saying they were under a 'dictator'.

    If anything, they are more accountable, than the Germans.
     
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