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The Patriot Act: Hold Trump and Kushner at Guantánamo Bay

Discussion in 'United States' started by Kyklos, Oct 18, 2018.

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  1. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You sure do!
     
    ArmySoldier, Oct 19, 2018
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  2. Tim15856

    Tim15856 Well-Known Member

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    He was our friend? Maybe yours since he had ties to the Muslim brotherhood and was pretty tight with bin-Laden before 9/11.
     
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    Tim15856, Oct 19, 2018
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  3. Kyklos

    Kyklos Well-Known Member Donor

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    You really don't get it. The US has military bases all throughout the Middle East and is involved intimately with those regional governments. The US has sold billions of dollars of advanced weapons to Saudi Arabia which they are using on Yemen. And who else are they using them on? The Saudi's also want a war with Iran which of course they want Americans to die and finance. Saudi Arabia legitimizes its tyranny by sucking up to Trump. Global power means responsibility and protecting mafia death squads is profounding hurting American interests. That Kushner gave Salman a classified intelligence watch list with Khashoggi's name means the US is involved.

    So ArmySoldier, you fake isolationism is noted.
     
    Kyklos, Oct 19, 2018
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  4. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You realize we are arguing the same point, right? I just want to give you a chance to edit your post before you feel silly
     
    ArmySoldier, Oct 19, 2018
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  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    He had to maintain credibility to get reliable information, and again, WE were pretty tight with bin Laden before 9/11.
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Oct 20, 2018
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    The Patriot Act is an attack on the US Constitution, specifically the 4th Amendment. How can it be legitimate?

    Our Greedy Leaders and elected representatives hold themselves above the law, FYI
     
    Eleuthera, Oct 20, 2018
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  7. Kyklos

    Kyklos Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, the entire US Constitution has been overruled by judicial fiat. We have none of the protections against government bulk surveillance of Americans, or private property seized by forfeiture for example. Congress put these laws in place and Americans are forced to live under them so we must insist Washington D.C. also live by them.

    If Federal Regulations to enforce Congressional acts are counted and only counting laws that have the force of federal criminal penalties, there are an estimated 10,000 to 300,000 (that’s right--three hundred thousand) laws that can be used to prosecute America citizens.
     
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    Kyklos, Oct 20, 2018
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    The Patriot Act: Hold Trump and Kushner at Guantánamo Bay

    I would have thought you would prefer sending them to the Saudi consulate in Istanbul.
     
    fmw, Oct 20, 2018
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  9. Kyklos

    Kyklos Well-Known Member Donor

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    That would mean sending them to their friends.
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    Kyklos, Oct 20, 2018
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  10. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, I'm sure all that's true. The bad guys have been in control for a long time, and James Madison is chagrined that the judiciary never quite lived up to predictions that it would be the last bulwark against tyranny. 8)

    The government was hijacked many years ago.
     
    Eleuthera, Oct 20, 2018
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  11. Kyklos

    Kyklos Well-Known Member Donor

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    Money in Saudi Arabia? What money? And money in Russia? Really? Quick, someone tell Kushner before he says something!
    Eric Trump lies on “Fox & Friends,” says Trump Org has “zero investments” in Russia and Saudi Arabia: In 2014, Eric Trump boasted about his family’s business ties to Russia.
     
    Kyklos, Oct 23, 2018
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