The Progressive Agenda means the Right to Earn a Living Wage for All Americans.

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  1. Belch

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    I already pointed out that you do not take profit into account. I think that might fall under the heading of economics. Where does profit fit in with your minimum wage idea?
     
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    Poe confirmed.
     
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    Capitalism, supply and demand.

    Good capitalists, "make like Henry Ford and invest in technology", to get rid of low wage jobs.
     
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    lol. you give yourself away, Right Winger.
     
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    I don't see the connection between good capitalists, profit, and minimum wage.

    Is this really the best you can muster? You throw out a few terms without even attempting to make a connection, and this is the best that you can do?

    Really, dude?

    You might want to rethink your basic ideas because you obviously don't have much of a clue. Henry Ford, investing in technology, get rid of low wage jobs...

    You really are incapable of tying any of these random terms together. I want you to know this hard truth because the truth is going to hurt, but it's for the best. You're incapable of arguing for your position, and you should feel a lot of embarrassment right about now.
     
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    dude; Henry Ford, a Good Capitalist, doubled autoworker wages and did not whine about doubling a Minimum wage.
     
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    Yes, and I already explained that conservatives generally don't care about minimum wage because we make more than minimum wage, and the reason why that is is because we produce a profit.

    Sorry, but you really need to rethink your basic ideas. I gave you a hint, and that hint is "profit". Ford didn't double the minimum wage. He saw raising the wage he paid to his employees as being beneficial because he needed trained people to work for him.

    I told you, you need to establish a link between minimum wage and profits, and your response has nothing to do with a minimum wage. It has to do with a capitalist (kinda sorta) realizing that paying trained people what they're worth which was far above the minimum wage (so you can forget about the minimum wage) is advantageous.

    I told you, we earn more than minimum wage for a reason, and that flew over your head.
     
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    Is this daniepalos really a computer bot?
     
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    i told you; it is a cost of living adjustment. it flew over your head.
     
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    Still nothing about producing a profit, dude.

    It didn't fly over my head, but rather you're just not willing to see work as a valuable commodity which is why we get paid money to do it. You talk of a cost of living adjustment, but the concept of a profit is inconeviable to you, which is why the Venezuelans are starving in the streets now.

    And you won't see that as relevant either, even though farmers make their money by being able to produce more than they consume, and they sell that to people like you, me, and even venezuelans so that they can eat.

    You don't care about profits, and that is why you don't understand basic economics.
     
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    You miss the point; innovate or perish. We need to shed low wage positions, anyway.

    http://fortune.com/2014/11/18/unfilled-jobs-us-economy/
     
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    and still nothing about profit and the minimum wage...

    Of course I miss your point. I've tried to explain how conservatives see things, and profit is king.

    Yet you've refused to address it.
     
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    lol. Yes, did. You simply don't understand the concepts.

    We need to Lose Low Wage jobs.
     
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    They are not smart enough to ever admit they were wrong

    Libs will just double down on all the wrong things
     
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    If a corporation employs a hardworking American but do not pay them a living wage then those workers are forced to use taxpayer provided welfare to supplement the inadequate income that corporations are underpaying for their labor. That is the same thing as the government providing corporations with taxpayer welfare subsidies to their corporate payroll in order that the hardworking Americans on their payroll can earn a living wage.

    This is not a difficult concept to grasp.

    Just because corporations UNDERPAY hardworking Americans does not make it right nor does it mean that is what their labor is "worth". What it does mean is that corporations are EXPLOITING the labor of hardworking Americans by NOT paying them living wages.

    Henry Ford INCREASED the wages of this factory workers and reaped enormous benefits because he had highly motivated workers who could afford to buy his products. Corporations today have completely ABANDONED the concept of being "good citizens" and doing what is BEST for America and instead are just focused upon GREED and denigrating the hardworking Americans who are the actual PRODUCERS of WEALTH.

    Hardworking Americans are being SCREWED over by corporations and that is going to end because it is NOT a sustainable business model.
     
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    Ever heard of DEFENSE CONTRACTORS? :eek:
     
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    All you ever do is regurgitate the alt right disinformation fallacies that have been debunked. Furthermore you have NEVER provided any credible substantiation for any of them by your own admission.

    Therefore that is NOT my problem.
     
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    Also known as Grand Theft which sounds exactly like the kind of crap your BLOTUS endorses.
     
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    Are you a paid spokesperson for the Wall Street Casino Bosses and their shills in the GOP? :eek:

    Because that is exactly what the above claptrap sounds like.

    We the People are being DIVIDED by the disingenuous bovine excrement being pushed by the greed obsessed Wall Street Casino Bosses.

    We the People that actually GENERATE the WEALTH that the Wall Street Casino Bosses STEAL from hardworking Americans by EXPLOITING their labor are NOT going to tolerate this abysmal state of affairs for much longer.

    The concept of a fair days pay for a fair days work is going to be resurrected and if the Wall Street Casino Bosses don't like it they are going to just have to deal with in the exact same way that hardworking Americans put up with their greed and avarice for the last 4 decades.

    We the People started this nation by rejecting being exploited by the wealthy and we did the same thing in the Civil War and with the Robber Barons.

    We the People will reject the Wall Street Casino Bosses for the exact same reasons because EXPLOITATION of hardworking Americans violated the principles on which our nation was founded.
     
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    Ironic!
     
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    More nonsensical alt right disinformation that you cannot substantiate.

    No one is advocating for "collectivist economics" because paying living wages is nothing more than ensuring that hardworking Americans are receive a fair day's pay for a fair days work.

    Too bad that the greed obsessed alt right don't understand these basic principles that this nation was founded upon.
     
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    :roflol:

    Education, housing and the means to get to work are "luxuries"?

    Thanks for just flushing your own credibility down the toilet with that load of absurd drivel.

    :roflol:
     
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    Regurgitation of DEBUNKED alt right disinformation duly noted and ignored for derogatory reasons.
     
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    Asinine non sequitur that lacks any shred of topic content.
     
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    Ironic coming from the same poster who just made this allegation.

     
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