The Progressive Agenda means the Right to Earn a Living Wage for All Americans.

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  1. roorooroo

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    The progressive agenda has gained traction with the parasites, for obvious reasons. The producers are having none of that, again for obvious reasons.
     
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    Nicely said. I agree.
     
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    Not smart at all, although I have absolutely no idea why you quoted my post and not the OP lol
     
  4. roorooroo

    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The above did not answer the question I posed. In a previous post, you essentially said that all accountants should be paid the same. I asked if you felt the same about basketball players, artists, electricians, musicians, etc. What say you?
     
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    Sorry Borat, I didn't mean you sir. I think I may have copied his statement off your post.
     
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    You said that everyone should have a living wage that would pay all the bills. I attempted to define what the bills should consist of. You apparently disagreed with my list. Would you care to elaborate on what your list of necessary bills would include?
     
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    Misses the mark. It isn't the money, it is my time.

    Awhile back, I did a rough calculation concerning how many hours I work for the benefit of those on "welfare". I based it on the federal and state tax I pay and the percentage of the government revenue that goes to welfare programs at the national and state level, and subtracted out some because I will eventually benefit from Social Security and Medicare (I paid in, I certainly want my investment back). The number I arrived at was roughly 2.5 weeks per year. And that is where the problem is. I could have used the earnings from my labor for my family. Instead, I was a slave for others, many of whom probably don't deserve to benefit from my labor.
     
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    You are blaming Obama for Clinton's economic crash? That is a stretch. The recession that Obama inherited was headed for a depression and the stimulus program was a factor in the economic recovery. The recovery did not happen through osmosis.
     
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    Venezuela is not a good example because it is an autocracy and a lousy one and I don't favor a progressive agenda as described. I worry that with Trump type leadership our country may fall on its face also.
     
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    A tent? Maybe a low rent home or apartment.
     
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    I would not formulate your idea as a “right”
    Perhaps an explicit governmental goal... like promoting full employment
     
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    Cuomo loaded up the housing market with minimum wage workers. Obama was a Senator when the Democrat Congress held Katrina victims and Veterans hostage for the minimum wage increase that threw minimum wage workers out of work and out of their houses. The Stimulus stimulated Obama's friends. It did nothing more than that. We still have the potholes we had before the Stimulus. Solar companies funded under the Stimulus went belly up. The Stimulus added trillions in debt. Obama even said that our best days were behind us. He can't claim credit for better days he didn't think we deserve and worked against.
     
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    Oh, was it 6 months? That's very different.

    Thanks for the clarification.
     
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    Progressive==Quantitative Easing

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    I need to add Cortez as a running mate and have a Tshirt and hat made up ;)
     
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    Why are people so ignorant on this subject? A "livable wage" is not the same for everyone, so how can the government be expected to accommodate everyone with this unattainable standard?
    1)If you are single, no kids, you can live with a roommate or whatever you need to to make the ends meet. You can also make sure you finished high school, or technical school to learn a trade and get to work at something better than McDs.
    2)If you are working at McDs, and live in NYC, you probably aren't going to be able to afford to live there. Move yo happy arse to a rural area where it doesn't cost much to live. Making $15/hr is not going to go as far in Nyc as $8/hr in GA (NOT ATL).
    3)Don't have kids before you are established in your job. Kids cost money, and if youre not working, its money you don't have.
    4)Stop having people in government tell your boss what to do, it usually ends up with YOU being fired. Or, if the government mandates you buy something, or raises your taxes on what you earn, this takes money AWAY from you without you having any say in where your money goes.
     
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    I saw the thread and asked, since when has any American citizen been denied the ability to EARN a living wage? If you didn't apply yourself in school, that right hasn't been denied to you, it simply recognizes your inability to be productive or otherwise plan for your own self sufficiency.

    I am unaware of any legislated or codified preclusions to American citizens being able to "earn" a living wage.
     
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    Any adult understands the fantasy of libs is just a fantasy. Dems have no policies, only childish arguments.
     
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    I'm sure that if you matched a graph of stimulus expenditures to the GDP, you could demonstrate that Obama's stimulus directly improved the economy.

    Or not.
     
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    Get rid of your bias about politics and some of it might be worth discussion. You are proposing Government is in charges of women's pay, men's pay and pays according to race and gender. Without a foundation and proof, it is not worth anything.
     
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    "Don't have kids" is often easier said than done for foolish young people and obviously can't be changed once it has happened. Such a position does not even attempt to address people's actual needs, but instead provides a prescription that everyone is supposed to follow. That's what conservatives are good at - preaching.
     
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    So, you don't think its "preaching" to tell business owners to pay mary sue enough to cover her poor life choices which brought out 5 kids with 4 fathers? When you don't hold yourself responsible for your own decisions, why should everyone else be held responsible for your poor decisions?
     
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    What is the alternative? Let her and the kids suffer? Where are the fathers in this equation?
     
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    She can get a job and support her kids just like everyone else does. Get by with less, it was done in the past and still done by illegals. I don't know where the fathers are, but you don't need to preach to me about Mary Sue and her kids.
     
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    There's that preaching again. One size fits all, of course.
     
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    Those sound like good strategies for improving one's financial situation.
     
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