The public is impressed by the REAL Obamacare!

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh noe, there you go with "need to spread the wealth around" mantra...

    Wise up! The companies will pass the cost increase to consumers, they will not sacrifice profit! That's just how it is! So, because of Obamacare, you will pay a little more for airline ticket, you will pay a little more to ship a Xmas gift to your mother, you will pay a little more for your groceries, you will end up paying for everything. That's just how things work in real world.
     
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    maybe when the tv programs The Simpsons and Family Guy run a show on obamacare then the liberal left make wake up and understand it..they need to see the pictures and here it in their terms
     
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    1. These major corporations and companies may or may not follow through with their threats.

    2. If they do follow through, and you blame the government instead of the greedy millionaires that actually do it, you're corporation boot-licker.
     
  4. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I will pay a little less when sick or injured people don't stick companies and hospitals and everyone else with their debts because they don't need to do medical bankruptcy.

    When city state,and federal programs for medically indigent, medicaid, etc, have less to pay for because people have insurance.

    Besides you are WRONG! Your naive view of business, so common in the Right, is just silly! Right now, the airlines charge EVERY PENNY THEY CAN for tickets!

    If they could raise prices NOW, THEY WOULD, Obamacare or NO Obamacare! :lol: Just because their medical costs go up 1%, that doe NOT mean they would or could raise their fares 1%.

    Perhaps you could take note that so many corporations have DRASTICALLY reduced their wages and benefits, yet ALL they have done is RAISE PRICES and RAISE PROFITS and RAISE EXECUTIVE WAGES!!

    Your suggestion is patently and obviously false.
     
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    "The public is impressed by the REAL Obamacare" says the HuffPo...

    "When REAL people look at the REAL plan, they are impressed" says Fiddler......

    Well, can you explain why Obama opted himself and his family OUT of his 'impressive' Obamacare?

    Can you explain why the congressional members and their staffers also opted OUT of the 'impressive' Obamacare?
     
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    What does a fake birth certificate have to do w/Obama/family, Congressional members/families & staffers have to do w/bailing out of Obama's 'impressive' Obamacare?
     
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    danielpalos Banned

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    I don't mind blaming the right for requiring a work ethic from the Iron Age instead of the morals to bear true witness to a federal doctrine regarding employment at will and State at-will employment laws.
     
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    Thanks! I saw that, wondered how you can fry sugared water, then forgot it when I posted.....

    Any of you libs out there, please explain exactly what fried kool aid is, please..........
     
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    Yup! Their wish was granted and so was their staff.......
     
  10. Flintc

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    I agree that a shortage of medical resources is a legitimate concern. When you have a large percentage of citizens without access to medical care for a long period, the system adjusts accordingly - medical professionals aren't going to sit around waiting for nonexistent paying customers, and manufacturers of drugs and equipment need a market that didn't exist before.

    A program like this can go into effect a hell of a lot faster than the entire infrastructure can reach equilibrium. It takes about a dozen years from a standing start to create a qualified doctor, and at least six years for a nurse practitioner - assuming there's plenty of idle spare capability to educate them sitting around. Which there isn't. Boosting US medical capability by, say, 25% means adding 25% to the educational capacity. Where do we get the instructors, much less the classrooms?

    And what THAT means is that while lots of people who couldn't afford insurance will be insured and be able to afford the insurance, actually delivering the medical care is another story altogether. The medical coverage probably won't reach equilibrium with the insurance coverage for about 15 years. In the meantime, there will be long waits.
     
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    LoL no, to the extent, I do not blame Government, I blame low information voters who elect such Government and then, as this proverbial math professor, do not believe it'll affect them personally.
     
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    As if low information voters only vote for democrats? I've seen people at tea party rallies with anti-Obama signs screaming about how they consider Obamacare a government handout and government should stay out of their healthcare, only to answer "We use medicaid" when asked if they have health insurance. I live in West Virginia. You want to see low information republican voters, come visit sometime. There is a plethora of them here. Certainly, there are many low information voters who vote democrat as well. Don't think I don't realize that.
     
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    There is no shortage on both sides. I am considered right wing and I have a right wing friend that makes me cringe when he spouts off talking points that have not been fully vetted by any investigation on his part.
     
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    They have NOT "opted out of Obamacare", this stupid lie is swallowed whole or repeated without question by all the Right Wing ditto-heads.

    Some people get insurance through their employer, which are OBAMACARE POLICIES, which means they meet certain MINIMUM levels of benefits, and can add ALL the benefits they want to!

    The Obamacare EXCHANGES are intended for people who DO NOT HAVE EMPLOYER INSURANCE and have PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS and/or want to get the payment subsidy because they are LOW INCOME!

    And ANYONE can call up an ANY insurance agent from an insurance company and buy a policy DIRECT from the insurance company!

    Why is this so hard for the Right to understand? Or are they deliberately lying because they hate Obama? Gee, let's try to guess...... :roll:
     
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    :wink:You lefties love deflection. Just don't let it get to you...it really hurts.
     
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    The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
    My wife and I will be first in line to sign up in October.
    All you republicans and your children should not sign up as your patriotic duty. That will leave a greater share of the medical services for me. Also when you all die miserably in a hole from an easily preventable illness the average intelligence of the human race will increase. A win-win for everybody. You'll die free of government interference and I'll live with tax supported medical care.
     
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    That's because most people spend their time living their lives, taking care of everyday problems. They don't have time to spend on internet message boards or listening to demagogic talk show hosts spewing propagandistic garbage.

    That's why most people aren't confused like this poor soul who believes she would be arrested if she doesn't sign up for ACA:

     
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    Because they already have health plans that they are happy with. Why would they change? That makes no sense. This for people who do not already have health plans or are unhappy with theirs and wish to change.

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    Whoops, you didn't read the article.
     
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    randlepatrickmcmurphy Well-Known Member

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    World Nut Daily...are you serious?:roflol:

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    Because they already have good plans. Why would they change? That makes no sense.
     
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    randlepatrickmcmurphy Well-Known Member

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    So you believe what the MSM spews out daily? Seriously? Only sheeple believe what is force-fed to them.

    btw, I do not listen to the radio or watch TV news. None of it. I go to independent media who aren't owned by giant corporations bent on keeping the sheeple docile. But YMMV.
     
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    Everything he said was posted in different threads on this very forum.. Try to keep up.
     
  22. randlepatrickmcmurphy

    randlepatrickmcmurphy Well-Known Member

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    Because they already have plans they like. Why would they change? Am I not saying this right? Or are you guys just deaf with all the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) plugging your ears?
     
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    Again everything he posted has been in previous threads on this very forum debated by many.....

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    Its what Mello does.. Deflect deflect deflect.... throw in a few "lol's" and move on to the next thread.
     
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    Well maybe you should watch some real news then because its still all over the airwaves. Doncha think if it was a lie the airline would come out and deny it rather than give the press information on what theyre doing and why?
     
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