The Purpose Of The Left

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by impermanence, Jan 26, 2023.

  1. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    Nope, sorry.
     
  2. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, words have meanings.
     
  3. Cybred

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    And your still not entitled to a hassle free life.
     
  4. Just A Man

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    Could you post that in plain English.

    Brother, it ain't me leeching off the government. But I don't want to pay for the leeches that the left keeps adding to the rolls. I'm a vet who never visited a vet hospital, never received a vet loan, didn't ask the government to pay for my schooling, and I never will. I served my government in the Navy and pay a nice income tax to them monthly. How about you? What have you done for your government?

    There is only one way. Think.
     
  5. Cybred

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    Your not, paid my taxes.
     
  6. impermanence

    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    Let's say a Nazi-like extreme right wing movement was having the same influence that the Left is having now. EVERYBODY would be against this because people remember how that scenario plays out.

    Yet why is it that with the utter catastrophe that was The Left in the USSR and Communist China [to name the two biggest tragedies], there is a group of folks who believe that this is actually worth trying again? Are you people f******** crazy? Didn't you study about what happened? Do another hundred million people need to be murdered to convince you that collectivism does NOT work, instead, that individual freedom DOES works.

    Yes, the system has become corrupted [because this is what human beings do] but the basic system of allowing individuals the most latitude to create and be productive has led to a world of plenty that nobody could have conceived of just a hundred years ago.

    Centralized power corrupts EVERYTHING. You want to spread the power out [and give as much as you can to the individual]. Even look at what happened to f******** school boards when they thought they could do anything they wanted. Power corrupts. Spread it out. This is always the best solution.
     
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    Ran it through a spell and grammar checker; that IS English, as plain as it gets.
     
  8. impermanence

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    Well, you know those Jewish radicals. I bet he was trying to unionize the carpenters, too! :)
     
  9. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Is racial discrimination a hassle?
     
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    You have incorrectly interpreted what I am saying.

    Traditionally in the US there are [were] basically two political parties, the conservatives who mostly desire to preserve what works [perhaps for themselves] and the liberals who wish to change those things they feel need changing [but not the things that work for them, e.g., NIMBY-ism].

    The extremes of each side [The Left I was referring to in my opening argument] takes the liberal stance further by becoming an active participant in what they view as creative destruction. This is fueled by many things but mostly by aberrant Utopian ideology.

    The fact that the US is the greatest country in the world is due to the individual freedom in his/her/it?'s ability to create and innovate. As a matter of pure speculation, I would say that 99.99...% of every good thing that has ever happened on this planet can be credited to individual initiative, compassion, and creativity. It is the collective that has generally held individuals back by instituting all the amazing ways that groups have figured out how to scam individuals.
     
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    I think he was spot on
    Give one example of any thing "liberals" have creatively destroyed? Liberal ideology isn't Utopian, it's pragmatic. The more AmeriCANs do well the better America does.
    We are the greatest country in the world because of our Constitution and it's Government BY the people.
     
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    Unproven assertion. Yawn.
     
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    Depends on the level.
     
  14. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    You said no one is entitled to a hassle free life. Sounds like discrimination is ok, by your logic.
     
  15. Cybred

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    So the only hassle that exists is discrimination?
     
  16. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Kicking someone's ass is a hassle, too. Right?
     
  17. Cybred

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    Nope.
     
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    Well sure it is. By your logic, kicking someone's ass is ok.
     
  19. Cybred

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    Nope, nope.
     
  20. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    You said we aren't entitled to a hassle free life. Another hassle would be voter suppression. Wouldn't it?
     
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    Ah no, active opposition is beyond hassle.
     
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    What dumb sh!t do you need to go through?
     
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    like machine guns? both the right and the left support those being harder to buy
     
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    the left wants to stop the right from to forcing rape victims to have their rapists babies
     

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