The real Islam

No I did not, you did.

 

No we did not , you did it before 9/11

 

Al Quacka were terrorists before 9/11, which the United States has said, as Bin Laden was on the Interpol website before 9/11.

Regardless of what anyone else does, or you think they did, why don’t you say, “the Tsarnaev brothers were terrorists, Hamas are terrorists, and Al Qaeda are terrorists?”

Say it now.

 

So Usa also was terrorist country before 9/11 , you were in terrorist country list for these bombers . Tsar , Hamas , Al-Q were not terrorists they were justice providers : ))))) if you accept usa as terrorist , okay I will accept them as terrorists .

: ))))



.

 

That is not the way it works.

Lien set a condition, “if you dont accept yourself as terrorist then I dont accept Tsarnaev brothers as terrorist.”

Under the set condition the following argument existed:

Since the “Tsar , Hamas , Al-Q were not terrorists they were justice providers,” therefore, the USA could not be terrorists, consequently, when she said, “So finally you said Usa isnt terrorist,” it was Lien that said we were not terrorists according to the conditions set.

If Lien said the Tsar , Hamas , and Al-Q were terrorists and NOT justice providers, then we could argue whether any of our troops were following orders to put on civilian clothes to terrorize and make all civilians a target (in essence attempted murder of all mankind) as per the known rules of warfare of the Islamic savages.

 

For Lien ; all people are terrorists if they kill innocent people , babies , civilians . Chechnyan Lien grew up in a war zone , she has seen many bad things in her life and know very well about wars .

For DivineComedy ; Life is a comedy . He's another usa citizen with sense of superiority . Never seen a war , always been with his family . He think usa is owner of the world . When they kill someone they are justice providers , when somebody else kill someone they are terrorists .

it can take up to very ancient times , until the birth of Islam , until the crusades : ))))

You did terrorism in muslim countries and you have seen response by terrorism : )))) you have no right to complain . A terrorist cannot blame another terrorist of being terrorist : ))))

Okay ???

 

If you and your kind choose to put on civilian clothes to wage war, and you and your nations support and defend such actors, and you refuse to make a distinction between that terrorist who puts all civilians in jeopardy and a uniformed lawful combatant following the Geneva Conventions, and if we must wage war to bring your kind of savage barbarian to justice so be it.

 

Its not concern to all muslim world , its a group . According to judicial system only you can be treated if you commited a crime , not all your family or all your district . The same thing , if someone has committed a crime against usa , you will find him and punish him . Not all of his country . In another perspective you cant intervene to a strong country , you can just intervene to small weak countries . You attacked Iraq because maybe they had nuclear mass destruction weapons . Why dont you intervene to russia ? maybe they have too : )))) are you afraid of it ???? Why you dont provide justice in Russia ? : )))) They also have patrol LoL : )))) accordance with all the conditions for terrorism : ))))

 

Yes, I know all the Muslim world is a criminal organization unconcerned with justice, it is why we can Rap, “Obama got Osama”:

Sunday, 30 September, 2001, 16:54 GMT 17:54 UK:
"'We do not accept the presence in our country of a single soldier at war with Muslims or Arabs,' Prince Sultan said in comments published on Saudi Arabia's official Okaz newspaper on Sunday." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1571689.stm

"Saudi Arabia said what?
'You can’t kill an Arab or Moslem;'
No matter the murderous plot,
We respect them?" (Sun 30 Sep 2001 09:03:18 PM EDT)

"Muslims would not be killing other Muslims. They would not be using Arabia to launch strikes on Muslim countries if they were actually Muslims.

Read the Quran
it's all explained in there" (Abu Sina) http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...-backed-wahabi-fanatics-6.html#post1061567723

I repeat, that criminality of the Satanic Black Stone Idolatry is why we can rap, “Obama got Osama.”

No, we did not attack Iraq “because maybe they had nuclear mass destruction weapons,” that was the lie perpetrated by foreign and domestic enemies, as the amendment that would have limited the Iraq war to WMD did NOT PASS, so it was also a War on Terror:

“I would have preferred that the President agree to the approach drafted by Senators Biden and Lugar because that resolution would authorize the use of force for the explicit purpose of disarming Iraq and countering the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.” (TEXT FROM THE SPEECH JOHN KERRY MADE ON THE SENATE FLOOR October 9, 2002)

“Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.” http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter7.shtml

According to judicial system, Article 51 of the UN Charter, if your country refuses to police your territory victims of aggression that emit from it have an “inherent right of individual or collective self-defence” to wage war against it and their allies.

Russians have pretty uniforms, but maybe a little too fashionable:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...igner-uniform-leads-to-pneumonia-and-flu.html

Uh, those snappy uniformed guys did not attack us on 9/11, if they had we would target those uniforms, but Muslim civilians representing all Muslim civilians did.

 

Suicide Bombers at Jummah Prayers.. Suicide Bombers at Mosques... Suicide Bombers at Temples, Churches, Schools and Hospitals.... And they call themselves as "Mujahideen". This is not My Islam.. These are Not Muslims who Killed Innocents.

“…if any one killed a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed the whole Mankind: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole Mankind.” Al Quran 5:32

I can believe that. Trouble is, not enough Muslims speak out against these terrorist that are using the Muslim religion to justify their murdering. They are being brain washed and it's up to Muslims to set these people strait. But most of the Muslims sit on the side quietly. Some times those that do speak out against them, are persecuted by other so called good Muslims. Case in point.

Tulsa Muslim who condemns terrorism is kicked out of mosque

http://www.batesline.com/archives/2006/11/tulsa-muslim-wh.html

 

Okay , so we will continue to bomb each other . No need to talk more .

: )))) good luck

 

I don’t believe in luck, I believe in God. And he never stops talking with final false prophets or accepts salami bombs up butts by its satanic adherents.

 

Sorry for you but the religion of false prophet is the world's fastest growing religion all over the world with over 2 billion followers .

: ))))

 

Why is it so many imam are the ones that are preaching terrorism in these mosques? Aren't they the ones who should be preaching love? But we have imam thrown out of several countries around the world preaching anything but love. I know of one was expelled from the U.S. Two from France and one from England right off hand and I am sure there are more than that.

 

One of the jobs of Al-Qaeda is to force hard line Islam on all Muslim nations. bin Laden threatened the people of Iraq and Afghanistan with death if they went to the polls to vote for democracy. They don't want Muslims to have a choice in the government they wanted. They want to force them into a government Al-Qaeda wants. Once your a Muslim, you;ll play hell ever trying to switch. Some of your biggest converts are from US prisons. Muslims work over time trying to get prisoners to switch to Islam. In some countries people are kidnapped and threatened with death if they don't convert. What kind of religion does this?

 

Same thing is happening today in Kashmir.

 

So you're not denying that islamic terrorism is overrepresented then? And please get rid of that unearned sense of superiority; a little muslim girl spamming smilies with quadruple chins, with bad english, is certainly in no position to feel superior to me. I'd love to have a serious discussion about this but you're doing it wrong. Actually, I think you've misunderstood my post because you don't even know what some of the words mean. My advice to that is to google them, and not post without knowing the message of the post in question.

 

Muhammad, the guy who had sex with underage girls, who was a warlord, was the best rolemodel the world has ever seen? Seriously, that's one of the most stupid and (*)(*)(*)(*)ing delusional statements I've ever read on this forum. If there's this guy, who wasn't a warlord pedophile, but otherwise exactly the same as muhammed, wouldn't he be a slightly better rolemodel? Or are you saying it's an inherently good thing to (*)(*)(*)(*) underage girls and be a warlord?

My arse they did. a man is worth two women as witness, just to name one thing. Do you seriously think that of all religions, that is the most fair? Again, delusional.

They were at war with vietnam, but there wasn't, as far as I know, any buddhist flying planes into buildings back then. The US has been everwhere but only when it came to you guys did it encounter.. this..

I didn't talk about terrorist attacks in the US, I talked about world wide. I was thinking more about the religiously motivated attacks on schools going to school et cetera. SO much for womens' rights eh?

- - - Updated - - -

religiously motivated? Interesting, got any links?

 

Probably they were killed for being enemy , there were a war between paki and hindu and they would be killed in any case , if pakis asked them do you accept being muslim ? this is a reward for them , you cant impose anything to people by force . This is just a courtesy . There is no compulsion in Islam .

 

You are making reference surah 2:256:

Then you have the following from surah 9 to contradict your claim:

The law of abrogation applies. The verses that come later abrogate those that came earlier:

 

You have a (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up way of thinking. US peoples have zero say in where the military goes to cause hell. The majority are opposed to the wars the best that can be argued is US regime is the largest most successful terrorist organization on earth. And i do, every day.

All the troops are affiliated with it and have blood on their hands. They are fair game for you to attack. Attacking US civilians is repaying evil for evil and makes Islam just another religion governed by darkness away from the light found in Christ Jesus the Lord.

 

Abrogation is for specific situations , not for all case and its clearly stated . For example drinking alcohol was common among arabs and firslty a verse said that dont pray while you are drunk , after this another verse said alcohol is a good thing but also it have more harm than benefit , finally a verse said that dont drink alcohol : )))) gradually banned .

You need to read surah 9 completly , you're trying to deflect means of verses : ))))

 

This religion should be banned. I a person from the Moslem community can't come forth and warn innocent people that another Moslem is fixing to kill them then to hell with them. They don't deserve to even be acknowledged.

 

American is not an empire in the making, it is an empire in decline. The fact that the US has had an interest in Global hegemony is a fact of every empire.

 

This is ridiculous. How is stating a fact taken as a form of disrespect ? If the truth provokes you then perhaps you need to re-examine your belief system.

1) No human speaks for God. Not the Pope, not your local minister, and certainly not some Imam issuing a Fatwa.

God did not sit down the Imam and tell him to go out and start killing folks for disagreeing with the Koran.

Killing people in the name of God is nothing new. I condemn Catholics for doing this in the past and I condemn people for doing this now (Including Islam)

What such illogical thinking should do is cause folks to re-examine their religious beliefs. Unfortunately this is seldom the case.