The requirement to impeach Trump based on his phone call:

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  1. stone6

    stone6 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually, I was agreeing with you. Biden wasn't the principal "target," but - according to Giuliani himself - discovered in Giuliani's investigation into Crowdstrike. I have no problem with further investigations...I sat through 7 or 8 Benghazi investigations.
     
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    Fair enough. My bad, I misunderstood your intent.
     
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    The point was that he's not a secret man due to his constant need for validation and attention. He's been very much in the public eye for decades meaning information about his past is not hard to come by.



    Sure he does. But he shouldn't be asking foreign governments to get involved in our elections. There are other means for accomplishing this, and he had over 3 years from the time of these alleged incidents to do it. Has nothing to do with who Biden is or what party he represents. Nothing about this, nothing, would be different if Biden was a Republican, because it's not Biden's actions that are the issue here, it is Trump's. Investigate Biden too if there is cause, but that's a separate issue that does not alleviate Trump of responsibility for his own actions.
     
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    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    And that means what? Trump could only pursue these things with this one single man? No other attempts were even made because he was waiting for this one man to take office?

    Nope, he did it now because Biden was a top polling opponent for president.

    https://www.dispatch.com/news/20191...n-trump-wrong-to-seek-help-from-ukraine-china

     
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    YES! Because it was always known that Ukraine was corrupt. So, with a new President that campaign on fighting corruption, the Trump administration thought it was a good time to make use of the Bill Clinton treaty.
     
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    stone6 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did he tell you that directly...or are you reading his mind? Funny, he didn't mention that earlier, instead of after all of the "you talking to me?"
     
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    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    mmm hmmm. How convenient of course.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Commonsense. Duh!
     
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    Then why the **** didn't you impeach Obama for Benghazi, Fast and Furious, the IRS scandal, the VA scandal, the Iran Ransom scandal, Walpin Gates Americorp firing scandal, Rosengate, Holder perjury, the Sebillius shakedown, Solyndra, unilaterally deciding to attack Libya without congressional approval, spying on the press (AP) Spying on Donald Trump, Weaponizing the IRS, the FBI and the CIA?????? WHY???
     
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    james M Banned

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    So Trump cant blackmail Ukrainians but Biden can because Biden is not president yet? Dear, I think we'd rather know now that Biden is a crook and clearly violated the Corrupt Foreign Practices Act.

    More importantly, let's never forget the saintly Trump is all that stands between us and the Green New Deal Great Depression!!
     
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    ??? countries work together on investigations all the time!!! What planet have you been on?? Illegal??? Why not tell us what law makes these cooperative investigations illegal????
     
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    Thats what they said about Trump too. What planet have you been on? Biden can save us from the Green New Deal Great Depression so he is a very very important figure and very likely to win nomination. 1+1=2
     
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    obviously false which is why they don't talk about it anymore. Remember the dossier??? Now they talk about the phone call even after the transcript/dossier has been released. Democrats are making fools of themselves.
     
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    You should tell the Democrats. 3 debates and they never mentioned it. Ever wonder why, and why they moved on to phone call?? And we have not seen the fraudulent and criminal reports on the origins of the Report yet either!! Stay tuned.
     
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    Here is the issue with the OP.

    1; The prosecutor general who Biden is accused by Trump of paying bribes to get fired to protect his son, was being investigated for corruption for a number of years before Hunter Biden ever got hired by Burshima.

    2; There is no evidence that Hunter Biden was ever the subject of any investigation by the Ukrainian Prosecutor General's office.

    Burshima itself was under investigation, but that investigation was started several years before Hunter Biden was hired by the company as a board member, and it was this investigation, and others like it, which was the reason for corruption investigations into Viktor Shokin. He was accused for years of taking bribes from corporate executives to look the other way when they broke the law. He was also accused of purposely sabotaging investigations into Ukrainian soldiers who committed war crimes during the 2014 Ukrainian Revolution. All of this began several years before Hunter Biden was hired as a board member by Burshima.
     
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    exactly, besides, you could argue the best time to make a big deal about Biden's many mafia-like violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act was 2 weeks before the election, assuming Biden was nominee.
     
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    so??? issue is that Biden stole money from poor Ukrainian people laundered through his son Hunter Biden. What planet have you been on???
     
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    John Solomon reported that Biden was to be interviewed by prosecutor the day after he got fired. Ever wonder why Biden had to have him fired in 6 hours ??? 1+1=2
     
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    so?? Issue is why was Biden stealing money from poor Ukrainian people and laundering it through corrupt company and his son. Now do you understand???

    It is clear violation of Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.
     
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    You can hold out hope if you like. The smart money has already moved on.
     
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    Normally, they work through their law enforcement agencies, not network TV. But, the Chinese have already turned down his request.
     
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    agencies work under direction of President!!! This president is more hands on but that does not change central facts 1+1=2
     
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    so??????????
     
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    NYTimes is as smart as liberals come and they had Hillary 8 to 1 on election day. What does that teach the liberal?
     

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