The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    Huh?

    1) Everybody KNEW what "was going on with Biden's Son".

    2) Most, simply, DIDN'T CARE (Since Biden's Son WASN'T Running).

    3) Anybody who actually cared, had more that enough time to factor that info into their voting decision.

    ^Those Are FACTS. Period.
     
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  2. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    If everyone knew then how is it that the MSN admits that if people had known about Biden's son they would not have voted for Biden? You DO know that information was suppressed right? That Twitter and Youtube removed the New York Posts video and article about Hunter Biden right? Just because YOU heard about it does not mean that "everybody KNEW". You are not the center of the world. And neither is this forum. Look beyond yourself.

    Oh wait...forgot who I was talking to. Nevermind.
     
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    Everyone who cared about Hunter already knew about Hunter. It was and is a non issue. And none of that was in the OP or link.
    People weren't voting for Hunter. And unless he was indicted on some criminal charge, there was nothing to be concerned about.

    They, who is they?
    And if your concern is Hunter. Again, not an issue for president.
     
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    First off, that story is originally from the Washington Examiner, a right-wing leaning paper. Also, IIRC, the Huner Biden story broke at the end of October, and there was a lot of questioning the veracity of it, so people did know enough about it, but because Hunter was not the one running for office, it didn't figure into most people's thinking, especially since most people we're bombarded with the Rump's accusations and already determined it was just another baseless hit piece. Since this poll was released just 2 weeks after the election, it doesn't really do much good in determining anything since the recounts were still going on. As usual, you guys rely on your right-wing rags for all of your data, but ignore the context within the bigger picture.
     
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    This self-congratulatory piece explains how they accomplished it and it's obvious they feel totally justified in their actions. They seem to be demanding praise for saving the "democracy". This arrogance, along with their increasingly inflammatory rhetoric against Trump's supporters should wake some people up. After the holocaust, someone famously said that "when someone tells you they want to kill you, BELIEVE THEM".
    They are pushing for charges of sedition and insurrection against protesters. A talking head on one of the MSM said that Trump and his supporters were the equivalents of terrorists on foreign soil and the guy wondered aloud why they shouldn't be droned.
    Time to wake up, folks. A storm is coming and it will be wise to think about preparing so you can stay safe from the crazy that's headed our way.
     
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    Esdraelon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What breathtaking lack of self-awareness you folks have.
    But I now agree that it's time to "move on". We are hearing a rising tide of voices demanding "accountability" from Trump voters. We are seeing a casual use of the "domestic terrorist" descriptor for everyone at the 1/6 rally as well as a general accusation of ALL Trump supporters being culpable. How do you feel about that? Does it concern you?

    If this inflammatory rhetoric continues to increase and devolve into calls for violence, will you stand up and denounce it as unAmerican? If we begin to hear frequent reports of "domestic terror cells" being broken up and arrests being made, at what point do you imagine you might wonder if there really are THAT many Americans who are dedicated to taking America down through violent insurrection?
    I don't see America haters under every bush or believe the majority of traditional Liberals/Democrats are "X".
    What I DO see is that in my 60 years, I've never seen this level of true hatred and loathing for one group of Americans by other Americans. I wonder if the Left will now keep up the rhetoric and use the Capitol protest as the basis for investigations and censorship and new laws that essentially target one political ideology.
    What is happening now is as old as human governments. It's a raw power grab by using a demonized "other". If we begin to see Trump supporters being harmed or worse, I'd hope most Americans are still moral enough to stand and refuse to support it.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    Attacking the messenger fallacy. And the MSN repeated it. And the Hunter Biden story that the New York Post made was about the FBI investigating him. That article was deliberately suppressed. That you cannot deny. Stating that people did know enough about it is a dismissal of that fact that not everyone knew about it as evidenced by the MSN publishing an article showing that enough people didn't know about it and that if they had they would have voted differently. What to you is "enough people"? Enough to swing an election? Or little enough to swing an election the other way?
     
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    And yet there is evidence that if the story about Hunter Biden had not been suppressed there are enough people that would have found out about it and not voted for Biden, giving Trump a decisive victory.

    As for none of that being in my link? The control of information was in my link in the OP. Are you surprised that the article doesn't mention the Hunter Biden story being suppressed directly? Think that they're going to give examples like that when they're deliberately trying to form a narrative that puts them in a Savior's Light? Think they're still not trying to control the flow of information?


    And don't play the "who's they" card. You have an article in the OP giving names and admitting that people were working towards "saving the 2020 election" (all while controlling the flow of information).
     
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    Unless both sides are working together.
     
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    Maube because there was never an actual attempt at insurrection. You can’t take over the govt with zip ties, flags and selfies:) it was a pathetic joke attempted by idiots. You’d need heavy arms and 1000s of people, which this didn’t have. BLM and ANTIFA were more successful with CHAD, while Democrats clapped and watched for weeks as people were murdered, raped and abused.
     
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    How is it a fallacy when you guys consistently quote from questionable sources? MSN, just like Yahoo, do not print or hire reporters, they just link to them.

    I know it must suck for you that we don't buy your hyperbolic bs, but it is what it is.
     
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    The sun didn't need help to set.
     
  14. Kal'Stang

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    Oh so they don't decide what is and isn't posted? Is that your claim?

    Why am I not surprised that anything that contradicts the narrative you want to believe is considered "questionable". Even AFTER reading an article from the Times admitting that they controlled the flow of information you STILL believe them when they say that they were just "fortifying" the election. They're laughing at you.
     
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    His policy on COVID 19
     
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    Yes, I do believe they were ensuring that the election would be fair as possible considering all the circumstances involved. The fact it was done as a bipartisan effort should be proof enough of that, but I know the minions have an altered level of critical thinking.

    When you guys have actual proof of anything from Hunter's laptop, we'll discuss it then, but for now, you've got nothing but more faux-outrage and sour grapes.
     
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    So prior to Covid you didn't disapprove of any of his policies?
     
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    When you begin hearing stories about a massive round-up of domestic terrorists, how will you justify that? I think most like yourself won't be bothered with even wondering if the government is going too far. After all, good Germans were pretty sure those filthy Jews were to blame...
     
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    Yes, a bipartisan effort by the Elites. To rig an election by controlling the flow of information. Know who else controls the flow of information in order to control the populous? China. North Korea. And they have lots of company through out history.

    You asked for an instance. I gave you one. Yet you still deny. Hope you were not one of the ones that claimed that those Russian Facebook ads affected the 2016 election.

    Oh and I wouldn't be hollering about "questionable sources" if I were you. Not when you post links to Mother Jones.
     
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    The question was which one I disliked MOST. I heartily disapproved of ALL his policies, but some more so than most.
     
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    How is it that your attacks on me are not "ad hom?" And who made you the purveyor of truth?
     
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    The tactics that the U.S. and Global Elites have used to oust leaders from power in foreign countries and install puppet governments we prefer finally made it to American soil. Clinton/Obama started a Color Revolution here in America to oust Trump. It started the day he was elected and ended with the final coup on election day. Of course, we always oust people from power in the name of "democracy".

    It's been interesting watching cities burn, the riots, lootings and attacks on citizens and law enforcement, and seeing our Techo-Fascist Establishment act like nothing was happening. So they were threatening businesses and corporations with continued destruction to get a buy-in from institutions to back the coup out of fear. Gee, that's a nice business you have there. It would be a shame if anything happened to it.

    Purple Color Revolution? Purple is the color of royalty, kings, queens, monarchs....and totalitarian dictators and despots.

    Hillary "concession" speech. Then she spent four years calling Trump and illegitimate President.

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    Democrats all wore Purple Ribbons at Trump's State of the Union.

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    Our next President, the one the DNC Establishment wanted.

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    Our Royal Oligarchy are back on their thrones....democracy has been "fortified".
     

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