The Senate Could Embarrass Trump Over His National Emergency

Instead, we declare national emergencies by temper tantrum.

 

Well, lookit that...my blind squirrel moment for the week.... I was hoping it was going to be even higher, but whatcha gonna do??? Sheep gonna baaaaahhhhh

Here is the list of people who DO understand what the Constitution says..

• Wicker
• Rubio
• Portman
• Collins
• Murkowski
• Toomey
• Blunt
• Alexander
• Romney
• Paul
• Moran
• Lee

 

This could have been a worthwhile discussion. Lets assume that your home doesn't have an idiot door with an idiot lock on it, should both sides unite and oppose government overreach and abuse of power?

 

No, he does not have the legal authority to simply manufacture one out of hot air and publicity and then use it to flaunt the authority of the legislative branch.

And Congress just ratified that.

 

GREAT to see the Senate deliver a stiff right cross to Kim Jong-Drumpf's cheekbone...

 

O? Report my post then and see where that gets you. Don't waste my time with this horseshit.
Their argument literally boils down to "this is a bad idea because someone might use it on us" not "this is a bad idea because congress constitutionally speaking is supposed to handle this, not the president, and there is no constitutional justification for delegating this power." ergo my summation is perfectly whole and correct. You don't like that I was sarcastic or flippant in response? No one cares.

Under the NEA he's 100% fine. National emergencies are terms of art defined by the statute, not by layman's terms. The statute doesn't require fix this now or we die to count.
The only way, constitutionally, that he's not in the black is if SCOTUS finds the NEA unconstitutional. It won't, though it should, ergo without a veto proof majority this is going to stand. You feel free to think otherwise, I'm not even going to try to convince you

 

No, it is not. Feel free to peruse the statute and let me know when you fail to find it.

And I am not going to bother reporting your trollish behavior. The ignore function will work just fine.

 

Not surprisingly, not a single one is up for reelection in 2020; except Collins who has a safe seat in Maine. Alexander is resigning from his seat.

Cowards and betrayers all of them.

 

The statute lays out how they come to exist in law: that he must make a declaration of emergency and cite a statute he proposes to act under. That makes a national emergency under the act.. The only mechanism to terminate it is the president himself or passage into law of a JR. Since he's promised a veto that means it needs to be veto proof. The national emergencies act does not say "once congress agrees there isn't a national emergency by less than veto proof majority, it stops being one". They have to pass a JR that makes it into law, and with the president vetoing it that's just not going to happen because they lack the numbers.


Again: this is why they should not have done this in the first place. To pass a JR bidding the president do XYZ specifically in a very particular situation is what they're supposed to be doing. Instead of doing that, they basically gave him carte blanche up front as long as he can cite a statute he says he's putting into place, because they're ****ing lazy.
There is a statute he's citing, it appropriates funds into a slush fund to be used as needed for nat sec construction issues and border infrastructure can be called that. If the NEA is constitutional (I don't think it is, but SCOTUS has looked kindly upon it) then this emergency is going to stand.

 

but not appropriate funds, which is why he's not getting money for his wall.

 

Thats just your biased slant on the issue

Others see the threat that mass migration poses

 

He does because national security is his responsibility

 

No he doesn't. Only an amendment would give the executive the ability to appropriate funds.

 

Trump wont be embarrassed to defend American National Security.

Get ready for a veto

 

Oh, is that what he's calling it?... American National Security?? Sheep on, my friend..

Hey!!

I just noticed something from my list in post #52.... Where is Thom (Seriously?? Thom?? Cmon) Tillis?? He was on the record as a Yes vote, but pussed out, so it seems...

Can't trust any Republicans these days... Mister Tillis is now another prime target to flip a seat in 2020....

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-gop-watch-tillis-vote-border-emergency-041453309--politics.html

 

I wish dems actually cared about border security.

 

Yeah its Americas borders, of course its American National security.

Theres nothing else to call it.

 

Id settle for them just caring about America

 

There are plenty of things to call it.... and I do every day.....

Here... I'll help you out.... Political DeadEnd..... For starters...

 

Its American National Security.
Enjoy your veto

 

I will...

Enjoy your 12 defections to reality...

 

"Do you approve or disapprove of the president declaring a national emergency in order to
use funding designated for the U.S. military to build a wall along the Mexican border?"
APPROVE: 33% / DISAPPROVE: 65%
​

The reality-tv entertainer with no expertise or experience in border security contrived his campaign gimmick - his "big, beautiful wall!" that he repeatedly promised Mexico would pay for.​

For two years, the Republican-controlled House and Republican-controlled Senate refused to give him the billions of taxpayer dollars he demanded after Mexico had effectively told Don John that he could go pleasure himself with a rolled-up copy of Forbes.

Most Americans are not fooled by his fake "emergency!"

Now, a Democratically-controlled House has perpetuated the Republican position of the past two years, and it will be left to the courts to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

 

There aint even votes to stop the President from ensuring American National Security.

 

Well, when you frame it THAT way.....

Nahh.. still wrong...

 

Maybe youre right, maybe Americans deserve to get murdered.....