The stunning hypocrisy of the Trump family’s attacks on Hunter Biden

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    If there’s any family that should sit out attacking others for alleged corruption, it’s the Trumps. Ivanka has profited millions, got $millions worth of Trademarks from China while Daddy was negotiating from China, Jared got a $500 billion bailout from QATAR, nice to have father in law whose the prez. Trump has bilked the American taxpayer out of millions, and republicans are saying Biden is corrupt? With a guy like Trump, that you are perfectly fine with the most corrupt president in history, why would you even care if Biden is corrupt ( though he isn't, it's a big lie, and the story isn't going anywhere, just a bunch of jackals on Fox talking about it. )

    I searched all over YouTube and the internet for hard, verifiable, evidence that Joe Biden did anything wrong, and I haven't found it. But pundits on Fox and many on this forum are shouting 'corruption' without any evidence.

    Y'all complained about Trump being falsely accused, never mind the fact that the investigations produced 24 convictions, including one where Trump is an unindicated co-conspirator on a felony charge, and now you are ranting about the bidens on scant evidence, some trump supporter with Hunter's laptop thinks he has something, when he doens't?

    https://www.vox.com/2020/10/21/21525326/trump-family-hunter-biden-corruption-explained

    As I wrote last February, shortly after the Washington Post broke news about the Secret Service spending more than $500,000 at Trump properties since he took office, the Trump family has become the swamp that Donald Trump once promised to drain:
    The irony is that the Trump children have made a fortune from foreign dealings, and not just before their dad took office. In October, Forbes reported that Eric and Donald Jr. have sold more than $100 million of the family’s real estate since the January 2017 inauguration — including a $3.2 million deal in the Dominican Republic in 2018 that is “the clearest violation of their father’s pledge to do no new foreign deals while in office.” Foreign money has also poured into the Trump International Hotel, located just blocks from the White House, which the president’s most recent financial disclosure indicated made him $41 million in 2018 alone.


    https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1186359222587592704
    "It's a beautiful place. It's been totally rebuilt. It's new" -- here's the President of the United States obliviously using the White House to promote a business he still owns and profits from amid a scandal about him using the presidency to enrich himself.

    And now Lou Dobbs is giving Sen. Lindsay Graham hell for not finding dirt in the Bidens, after all, he's the head of the Senate Judiciary Committee, it's his job to investigate stuff.
    You'd think if Biden was this corrupt guy, Graham would have the dirt.
    Yeah, he's going to investigate Biden,


    Now there's real bad guy, if there ever were one.

    And this:


    If the FBI had anything, you think Barr would sit on it, knowing he's going to get a lot of flack from Trump?

    Something doesn't add up, and it's this story.

     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Biden should just go ahead and admit his involvement. We know of several several times he lied. What more could we expect from a fracking liar?

    The Trumps have no secrets.
     
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    At least I agree with you about Graham. He is all talk and no action. He is a swamp creature of the first degree just like Biden.

    As to the rest, there is the computer, the emails and the confirmation by the recipient of the emails. That is all evidence that would be admissible in a court of law. But you are certainly welcome to ignore it.
     
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    The evidence against the Bidens keeps mounting each day. Solid non refutable evidence that Joe Biden used his political office to collect money from foreign governments. Even Joe nor his handlers dispute the evidence. All they can say is it is Russian interference. That won't stand up in court. The Bidens have been busted.
     
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    If you can't find evidence Biden is guilty of selling influence to China, Russia, Ukraine and other countries, you aren't looking very hard.

    Even if you ignore Biden's scandals, just his record alone should be enough to determine he not only shouldn't be President, but can't be President. He was for NAFTA, the TPP, China's most favored nation status and admission to the world trade organization. These things and more have shipped hundreds of thousands of US jobs overseas. He wants to eliminate the oil industry!

    The 24 convictions you talk about are either cases that have absolutely nothing to do with Trump, his campaign or his Administration. They are ALL prosecutorial misconduct persecuting people for supporting Trump. Many are minor convictions for lying to congress or the FBI which were just plea bargains just to get the government off their backs. Papadopoulos? C'mon man! What did he do wrong? What crime did he commit for the government to go after him in the first place? Same for Gen Flynn, Roger Stone and others. There was no predicate to go after these people. There was no underlying crime (besides Russian collusion which we know didn't happen). It's a shame we used the power of government to punish people for political reasons while actual criminal activities like Crooked Hillary where let off the hook for actual crimes.

    And let's not forget this whole thing was revenge. They spied on the Trump campaign and then launched a phony investigation based on Russian disinformation paid for by Crooked Hillary because President Trump defeated her.
     
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    OP: the hypocrisy is astounding and the Trump family are hardened and crafty exploiters - but you won't convince any Trumpers...

    They are absolutely convinced that Fox is a law court and mounting evidence is being produced against the Bidens in what appears to be a mock trial.

    It's not surprising actually. Between the President who spins fantasy out of Tweet ether and Qanon's basement skulduggery where does reality end and the phantasmal world of the Trumper begin?
     
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    Does the fact that President Trumps own Justice Department is not hot on the trail tell you anything.

    What ever happen to the investigation into John Kerry and the "swift boat" allegations"?
    What ever happened to the investigation into President Obama's citizenship?
    What ever happened to all the charges that were leveled against Hillary Clinton?
    What about the charges against President Trump?

    We need to wait until there is an indictment and/or a trial or it is nothing but noise.
     
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  8. Patricio Da Silva

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    So, show me something that proves wrongdoing by Joe.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's all noise. Hannity and his ilk are barking at the wind, they are shameless.

    Nothing has been provided, so far, that proves any wrongdoing by Biden.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/hunter...alleges-father-knew-about-venture-11603421247
    Former vice president says he had no involvement; corporate records reviewed by The Wall Street Journal show no role for Joe Biden

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-tony-bobulinski-joe-biden-unanswered-questions
    Fox News has reviewed emails from Bobulinski related to the venture — and they don't show that the elder Biden had business dealings with SinoHawk Holdings, or took any payments from them or the Chinese.


    You don't hang a man because his kid 'looks bad'.


     
  10. Patricio Da Silva

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    All politicians misspeak occasionally, but Trump has told over 20,000 lies to day and apparently that doesn't bother you.

    The evidence points to corruption by Trump, tons of it, but that doesn't bother you.
     
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    Since you have no idea what bothers me, you are making that up.

    Isn't that what you are accusing Trump of doing?
     
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    Evidence must go through discovery before its admissible, so no, none of this is admissible in a court of law.
     
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    Are you claiming that Biden has not seen any of this?
     
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    I'm talking about the admissibility of evidence. The trial is being conducted in the media, so discovery is for the media. Has the Post shared the hard drive for independent review?
     
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    Discovery only means that it has to be shared with the defense.
     
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    Discovery means the evidence has to be shared. Has it been shared?
     
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    Trials start with the defendant pleading not guilty.. not this one.... This trial started with the Bidens pleading the 5th, not willing to incriminate themselves. In light of the overwhelming evidence - Hunter's emails, the emails of Hunter's ex partner, emails and phones of Hunter's ex partner Tony Bobulinski, the Senate report etc - all incriminating the entire Biden family - the evidence is overwhelming.
     
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    That would mean all information should be shared including what Joe Biden knows and all other communications about the bribes.
     
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    You highlighted it yourself, The trial is being conducted in the media.

    There is no arraignment. No plea deals. No self incrimination. It's a Post story with more holes than Swiss cheese. Nobody believes it.
     
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    No, it means the Post needs to submit its evidence for outside review.
     
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    And the fact Bobulinski has spoken publicly and implicated the Biden family, including the "Big Guy" none other than Ole Joe. Bobulinski says he is willing to testify under oath and he has the messages to back up what he says. Every USA citizen should want to hear everything and let the chips fall where they may. It's early to make excuses for Biden at this stage, especially in light of what the NY Post has published. Bring it on! It might help drain the swamp.
     
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    You mean the media, with all its vast resources, have not been able to get a single copy of the hard drive? It does not sound like they are trying very hard. On second thought, they are not trying at all.
     
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    Has Giuliani offered it to CNN?

    The media tracked down Mac Isaac, and he's out to lunch. Giuliani has refused comment. (and he's out to lunch too)
     
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    And no reason for the Bidens to not "plead not guilty" ... except unless they are.

    Biden denied a lot of things, Biden repeatedly denied being involved in Hunter's activities, Biden denied firing the Ukrainian prosecutor for corrupt reasons... now a ton of evidence to the contrary is discovered and suddenly he is not denying anything. His, his family and his campaign's silence and refusal to outright deny the accusations speak as loud as an admission of guilt.... and the evidence to support this conclusion beyond any doubt is overwhelming.
     
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    You mean the media can get access to Trumps tax records, which is illegal, but they cannot get access to one hard drive, which is perfectly legal? Like I said, they are not even trying.
     

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