The sun is blank, NASA data shows it to be dimming

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  1. bringiton

    bringiton Well-Known Member

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    Do you know what "Maunder Minimum" means?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know what does breathe CO2? Plants.

    In fact, the earth has gotten vastly greener over the last 30 years due to it.
     
  3. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Slash and burn agriculture is reversing that trend.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's why it's called the 3rd world.
     
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    The Sun is getting dimmer and the Earth is getting warmer. If not a greenhouse effect....then what?
     
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    The Sun getting dimmer is a result of people burning fossils fuels.

    The Earth getting warmer is your religious belief.

    The greenhouse effect is an effect you cannot describe or have any knowledge about.
     
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    So far we have gotten lucky but this could change at any moment and the solar output could increase again - and then where will out CO2 enhanced atmosphere leave us?

    BTW interesting that the denialists believe NASA when it agrees with the denialists beliefs but otherwise often view them as demonic conspirators out to swindle humanity
     
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    :roll::roll::roll:
     
  9. _Inquisitor_

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    I know, I know I do make girls to roll their eyes up.
    Do you think it is so easy to remain faithful to one?
    At the moment she throws her woman's tantrum at me?
    Love you, too.
     
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    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :eek: lol
     
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  11. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe NASA when NASA has actual verifiable and observable facts. I doubt NASA when it's AGW pushers attempt to weave a story by manipulation of facts. As far as "getting lucky" I'd say we have been very lucky to live in one of earths brief warm periods and I truly hope we are not slipping into another cold era which is much more the norm for this planet. The sun activity or should I say lack thereof is not what I want to hear.
     
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    It is called confirmation bias

    That is all that is really at work here
     
  13. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Apt description of the AGW cult and their fanatical devotion to all things that confirm their religion while discounting all opposing evidence as heresy.
     
  14. Max Rockatansky

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    NASA is not an "AGW cult" and I'm appalled by how some people have twisted Christianity into an anti-science cult.

    God created the Universe and everything in it including all natural laws. To study the Universe and those laws is to study the divine work of God. God gave us brains thereby separating us for animals. The expectation is that we'd use the God-given gifts wisely.
     
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    The climatology division created and staffed by Obama is indeed a cult. They live off the good name of NASA scientist and engineers that put a man on the moon but in reality they are an entirely different group of people and have nothing whatsoever to do with the real NASA.
     
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    You don't
     
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    Thanks, I needed a laugh today. Good stuff!
     
  18. Max Rockatansky

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    Bullshit. Using Obama as an excuse for everything in which you disagree is as silly as when the Obama fans did the same to Bush.

    Every division of NASA is overseen by scientists. NASA has built and launched satellites specifically to monitor and collect climate data. To claim NASA allows a "cult" to be within itself is to besmirch all of NASA.

    https://climate.nasa.gov/nasa_science/history/
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    https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2644/prolific-earth-gravity-satellites-end-science-mission/
    After more than 15 productive years in orbit, the U.S./German GRACE (Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment) satellite mission has ended science operations. During their mission, the twin GRACE satellites have provided unprecedented insights into how our planet is changing by tracking the continuous movement of liquid water, ice and the solid Earth....

    ...GRACE, a mission led by Principal Investigator Byron Tapley at the University of Texas at Austin, launched in March 2002 on a planned five-year mission to precisely map our planet's ever-changing gravity field. It has revealed how water, ice and solid Earth mass move on or near Earth's surface due to Earth's changing seasons, weather and climate processes, earthquakes and even human activities, such as from the depletion of large aquifers. It did thisby sensing minute changes in the gravitational pull caused by local changes in Earth's mass, which are due mostly to changes in how water is constantly being redistributed around our planet.

    "GRACE has provided paradigm-shifting insights into the interactions of our planet's ocean, atmosphere and solid Earth components," said Tapley. "It has advanced our understanding of the contribution of polar ice melt to global sea level rise and the amount of atmospheric heat absorbed by the ocean. Recent applications include monitoring and managing global water resources used for consumption, agriculture and industry; and assessing flood and earthquake hazards."

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    Yes NASA built satellites to "study" global warming which was all part of the Obama politicization of a once well respected organization. He shifted the focus of NASA from exploring space and made it a political tool to wage his war on America
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    First, it was Gore that politicized global warming after losing to Bush.

    Second, regardless of the ****ing Democrats and their emotionally-based politicization of global warming, the fact remains, as NASA shows, it exists.

    https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

    Now, do you have scientific evidence to refute NASA or, like ****ing Al Gore, are your arguments all emotionally-based political ones?
     
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    No evidence can be refuted because evidence has no place in natural sciences.

    In other words they don't refute BS.

    Or in other words NASA has to demonstrate when and where any physical theory, from Newton to Einstein, ever had any use for scientific evidence.

    NASA can't.

    So, it goes into the garbage, into the fire:

     
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  22. Max Rockatansky

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    You epitomize everything I just mentioned about the emotionally-based politicization of global warming. Thanks!

     
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    You said:
    I said:
    What I said can be either true or false.

    You keep on spewing emotions.

    Because GW warming is based on evidence it is a religion.

    And you keep on demonstrating an emotional zeal of a religious fanatic.
     
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    I thought you guys believed that it was the sun causing global warming and now you admit the sun has actually been dimming? So what is causing so much warming that it is even over-powering the dimming of the sun? The only thing that has changed that much is the greenhouse effect which is an important part of the climate. I don't think solar dimming is a threat because it has dimmed only slightly and is within the normal range within the last 200 years.
     
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    Awesome. "A difference that makes no difference is no difference." Ergo, you said nothing.
     

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