The truth about illegal voting

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  1. not2serious

    not2serious Well-Known Member

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    You cannot find voter fraud if you do not look for it, now can you.
     
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    You can find good arguments that the Earth is flat if you look hard enough. Looking for knowledge is a fundamental mistake in science or any other field for that matter. If you go into a study with pre-conceived notions those notions are what you will find. Reality, OTOH, has this way of poking us in the arm whether we want to see it or not

    I am not trying to deny that voting fraud happens, but to argue that such a tiny phenomena can have a significant effect is ludicrous. The entire process is armed and armored against it and the way voting is done is more than enough to deter most any reasonable fraud. Anything additional is done simply to suppress non-Republican voters and this is obvious to anyone who studies the controversy
     
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    They rely on their feelings and expect others to go along with those feelings.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have no idea what the numbers are.

    But you should understand that is is only Democrats who are strongly opposed to voter identification.
     
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    This has nothing to do about how many polling places there are.

    It's about a totalitarian state (California) where Democrats passed a law allowing people who have never been registered to vote before to register to vote and cast a ballot after the polls have closed at 8 pm on election day.
     
  6. not2serious

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    So you are stating that non-Republican voters are too stupid to register to vote, bring ID, or other simple forms of civic responsibilities? Good lord, you have to have ID to get a weapon from a licensed gun dealer by federal law, voting should be the same level.
    Voter fraud is the biggest non kept secret in American. I certainly do not trust the vote. What they need to do is go into Chicago, Los Angeles, Philly, New York City and do a 100% tracking of every vote cast. This would be track each voter, confirm they exist with proper ID, make sure they did the vote themselves (Alzheimer units, really??), and track down and confirm EVERY vote from the internet too. Then come back and tell me there is little fraudulent voting. You better be ready to shitt you pants if they ever do this. Instead of guessing, confirm it. Like I said, there is no voter fraud if you are not looking for it, but tons if you are.

    Apparently you want to use the scientific approach. It is certain that there is massive fraud in voting, and putting your head in the sand will make it not true.
     
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    Why would anyone who isn't registered to vote show up at a county registrar's office after 8pm at night after the polls have already closed on election day and is willing to stand in line for four hours to register to vote and cast a ballot ???

    Something doesn't sound right and stinks.

    How many were bussed in ?
     
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    It is the scientific method. Put your head in the sand and pretend it never happened, and it will never happen.
     
  9. Fred C Dobbs

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    The only reason people would not vote if there were ID laws would be if they had something to hide.
     
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    Can you explain how it discriminates against any of these people?
     
  11. not2serious

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    Why would you want 100% voting? Would you be looking for 100% pistol ownership too? Those that care vote, those that don't care do not vote. And those that are democrats vote many times in each election.
     
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    The TRUTH is something the liberals do not want to face. Most liberals have the capacity of small children in their beliefs and actions. A sad decline in American, and in the end, it will end our way of life, and our government and country will soon resemble Mexico, not historic America.

    I read recently that there are over 10,000 things that require a government ID to do if you are over 18.
     
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    We both have an idea what happened.
     
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    California has become a totalitarian state, one party rule and nobody can do jack **** about it unless federal troops are sent in.

    For twenty years Democrats in Sacramento have changed California's voting laws that Republicans no longer have a chance of winning elections.

    Tuesday night (Nov 7th) the socialist running for the Sheriff of Los Angeles County, Alex Villanueva (reconquista socialist, open borders, pro sanctuary cities, anti ICE) was over heard saying after the polls closed when it was reported that thousands were lined up waiting hours to register to vote and cast ballots..."Those are my people."

    The incumbent and current L.A. Co. Sheriff, Sheriff McDonnell is the first L.A. County Sheriff in 100 years not to be reelected.

    The soon to be Sheriff Villanueva is the first Democrat L.A. County Sheriff in 138 years.

    The radical left did the same thing to Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Maricopa County in Arizona.

    Democrat County Sheriffs don't make good Sheriffs. Look at Broward County Florida. (Parkland high school mass shooting)

    Democrat Sheriffs are to political while Republican county Sheriff's just keep the peace, enforce both county, state and federal laws and uphold the oath of office defending the Constitution of the United States.

    If only the votes that were casted at the polling precincts in California were counted, no Republican Congressional district would have flipped.

    It's the absentee ballots where voter fraud happens. provisional ballots, and same day voter registration and casting of ballots after the polls have closed that flipped election results and made California a totalitarian one party rule state.

    FYI:
    What happened in L.A. County happened in Orange County. After the polls closed and the MSM reported that all of the Republican Congressmen and women running for reelection would likely win, thousands of people showed up at the OC Registrar office in Santa Anna waiting in lines for hours at night to register to vote and cast their ballots for Democrats.

    How many were bussed in ?
    How much were they paid to stand in lines for hours ?
    California has gone banana republic and is now a totalitarian state.
     
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  15. Robert

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    Remember the rapid rise of Kamala Harris when she was at San Francisco and then she is in Sacramento now in DC? That woman is a snake.

    She was interrogating a head of ICE I think he was and she kept discussing perception where to her perception was ICE and KKK were equals. She knows how to misuse perception.
     
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    Kamala Harris is a member of the Mulatto Mafia.

    She's also now one of the chief clowns of the U.S. Senate.

    I really don't give a **** what the perception illegal aliens have for ICE.

    All alien criminals should fear ICE, that's their job to remove non citizen aliens who aren't suppose to be hear from the United States.

    America's enemies fear our military and alien criminals in America better fear ICE.

    Right now ICE under President Trump has only been going after criminal aliens who have already committed violent crimes or have been already ordered deported by the courts.

    ICE should get back to their NIS roots and apprehend every alien who's unlawfully in America like back during the good old days.
     
  17. Robert

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    I have not researched this yet, but recall when Kamala Harris was making a name for herself by being the City attorney for San Francisco. I believe she was up to her eyeballs in creating SF as a sanctuary city. She in my opinion heavily favors illegals and will block ICE in any fashion she can.
     
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    It was Kamala Harris as California's Attorney General who wrote what the voters read on the ballot for Proposition 47 and proposition 57 so voters wouldn't know exactly what they were voting for like many felonies in California are now misdemeanors and treated as infractions and raping an unconscious girl is no longer a violent crime and assault with a deadly weapon is no longer a violent crime.
     
  19. Robert

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    First, I must correct my statement that Harris was once the city attorney for San Francisco.

    She served for the city in the office of the District Attorney but later was the District Attorney.

    And the sanctuary city law dates to 1989 when this woman was the city attorney at the time.
    Louise Renne
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    Louise Renne is a lawyer, former Supervisor and one-time City Attorney for the City and County of San Francisco, California. She was born to Anne Bartrem Hornbeck (1909 - 2001). She succeeded to Dianne Feinstein's post upon Feinstein succeeding George Moscone as mayor in 1978, and Renne served in the seat until 1986, when she resigned to accept Feinstein's appointment of her as City Attorney, succeeding George Agnost to become the first female City Attorney in San Francisco history. She served in the position until 2001 and was succeeded by current incumbent Dennis Herrera.

    Renne is a founding partner at the law firm Renne Public Law Group LLP. She is a graduate of both Michigan State University and Columbia Law School
     
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    That is the same woman. What a poor excuse for a lawyer and senator.
     
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    Bullshit. My now deceased parents were elderly, and had ID. I am disabled and have multiple forms of ID. My wife is a minority and has multiple forms of ID. While I wouldn't say any of us are poor, we're far from rich, so how can that be?

    I've got an idea. How about we stop requiring ID to buy booze, and then just declare, for no reason whatsoever, that only 20-50 underaged people did so?
     
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    it has to do with not having the voting equipment needed nor the proper number of polling places

    republicans purged the voting rolls... thus they should be allowed to vote even if removed in error

    as for the absentee ballots, it they are postmarked days before the election, they should be allowed, not the time they are delivered, that leads to fraud and misplaced ballots from certain areas to delay delivery
     
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    I do not think ID should be needed for cigarettes or alcohol.... that said, neither is a constitutional right to do like voting is

    now, you could argue that if no id to vote, no id to buy a gun... that would be a better argument as both are constitutional rights

    the problem is, why should you need more ID to vote in person then by absentee ballot? I think absentee ballots would then need to be notarized by a notary public to verify the ID of the voter of the absentee ballot
     
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    B.S.

    You cant do anything in society without ID.
     
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    Back during the good old days, the way it use to work in most states.

    If you didn't vote during a Presidential election, you were automatically removed from the voting rolls and had to register to vote again.
    That got all of the dead people of the rolls like in Chicago who vote during elections or the people who have moved.

    Everyone was required to vote at their precinct polling place on election day. Everyone. No early voting !!!

    You had to have a really good reason to request an absentee ballot to vote by mail. Either you were going to be out of town or you were in the hospital.

    In most California counties, four different types voting ballots are used. Each has to be counted separately or differently and some only by hand.

    Rarely ever are signatures on absentee ballots are ever compared to the signature on file.
    Most voter fraud happens using absentee ballots.

    Signatures at polling precincts are never compared to the real signatures on file.
     
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