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THE UKRAINIAN ARMY HAS BEEN DEFEATED. WHAT’S LEFT IS MOP-UP

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  1. Thedimon

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    Russians did not take Mariupol. There are ongoing street fightings. Azov continues to post pictures of killed Russians and destroyed equipment. Russian officials themselves did not claim Mariupol.
    :lol:
     
    Thedimon, Mar 25, 2022
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    Every one of them have broken laws having nothing to do with freedom of speech.
     
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    4 years ago, US diplomat J. Michael Springman tweeted a cartoon about "friends" of the US...
    Even then, Ukraine occupied a special place.
    [​IMG]
     
    Destroyer of illusions, Mar 25, 2022
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Says who? This guy?

    https://www.reddit.com/user/atamanbl41/

    Here is the most complete image I can find:
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    At https://replyua.net/87620-amerikans...skandalnuyu-karikaturu-na-ssha-i-ukrainu.html

    No evidence here that any US diplomat tweeted it. I do see that the screenshot came from someone using Twitter in Russian, but that's it.
     
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    Durandel you can also thank the great leader Zalensky for this news from the General Staff Main Operational Directorate chief Sergei Rudskoy:

    Ukraine's air and air defence forces have been almost completely destroyed, and the country's navy has effectively ceased to exist.

    Rudskoy also warned that Russia would not leave unattended any attempts to supply Kiev with new aircraft and air defence system, and warned NATO against the implementation of a no-fly zone.

    Rudskoy revealed that Russia has suffered 1,351 military personnel killed and 3,825 injured since the operation in Ukraine began on 24 February.
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    This number probably doesn't include the amount of men killed in the armies of the Donetsk People's Republics who did much of the fighting so they can free the rest of their territory from the Nazis - nor the Chechens who volunteered to do the urban fighting in Mariupol.

    But regardless, the number would still be low compared to this:

    Ukraine's armed forces have suffered 30,000 losses - 14,000 dead and 16,000 injured during the same period, according to the Main Operations Directorate chief. These losses have affected all 24 groupings of the ground units which existed before the operation began, Rudskoy added.
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    And then Durandel, we have the following. It's a translation from a Greek site:

    9 Ukrainian S-300 batteries were destroyed in the Kiev region and specifically in the village of Danilovka, located south of Kiev, by high-precision Russian strikes.

    Such a large-scale destruction of air defense systems is observed for the first time. At the same time, experts note that the Ukrainian army simply could not prevent blows.

    According to the official statement of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, among other things, 4 Buk arrays of unknown version were also destroyed.

    This indicates the almost complete destruction of Ukraine's air defense in this region.

    These are preparatory actions for operations that Moscow will launch when it considers it is the right time to carry out them.    ​
     
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    Then why is American media saying the Ukrainians are reclaiming territories and fighting the Russians back? Could they be dishonest?
     
    George Bailey, Mar 25, 2022
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    Are you reading beyond headlines?
     
    Durandal, Mar 25, 2022
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    What are headlines?
     
    George Bailey, Mar 25, 2022
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    FRAGGING: Russian soldier runs over commander with tank in protest.

    That will get his attention.
     
    Zorro, Mar 25, 2022
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    I believe it! I believe because in Russia anyone who spread fake news about 'special military operation' can be punish be up to 15 years of jail, so it logical that in Russia they have only truthful news. In Russia the is long tradition of publishing only truthful new, the most truthful media is called 'Pravda' - which in Russian it means 'Truth'
     
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    Thedimon, Mar 25, 2022
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    The Ukrainians might have pushed the Russians back in one area, and they mentioned it the same way the MSM mentioned that a Russian ship was hit by the Ukrainians. After that though the Ukrainian navy ceased to exist, so why do they deceive the readers? I have no idea, maybe to prolong the war the way they did in Syria?

    Here's an interesting video of Patrick Lancaster interviewing some people in a suburb of Mariupol. The man that he's interviewing said that in Mariopul the Ukrainian army wanted to surrender since they would have been given a free passage by the Russians, but the neonazi Azov Battalion refused since they knew what their fate would be. So the Ukrainian soldiers began shooting them. He said that Azov took civilians as hostages to die with them.


     
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    so youre a proud supporter of azov huh and their objective to "lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against Semite-led inferior races" ?

    Are you still living in the slavery days of alabama south 1600?
     
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    And you guys are cheerleaders for azov and their special operation of killing off the "inferior races"?!?

    Just wow.
     
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    They're about as scary as the Confederate flag-wavers who showed up to attack the US capitol in January of last year.
     
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    nato is white western europe and white western europe is nato. Put em in the dock.

    Then again, its a waste of time. You have power, you are not guilty. Western europe is riddled with corruption. Its rotten to the core. We all know it.
     
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    I'm sure the Turks would be surprised to find out that they're white.
     
    Durandal, Mar 25, 2022
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    Best comment I have heard on this, think it was from the Wall Street Journal
    paraphrase - defeat or victory in Ukraine looks no different to Russia

    Defeat - a demolished Ukraine and massive insurgency
    Victory - a demolished Ukraine and massive insurgency
     
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    Esau, where do you wish to live?
    1 - Europe/America
    2 - Russia
    3 - Africa
    4 - China/Cuba/Venezuela
    5 - Antartica
     
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    Haven't met a black one, yet.
     
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    Me either.
     
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    What?
     
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    Very easy to catch a Nazi. All one has to do is what the Chechens do, make them strip. They wear their Nazi identity all over their bodies.

    In Patrick Lancaster's interview in a video he was told that the Ukrainian troops in Mariupol wanted to surrender, because they knew the Russians would let them go, but the Azov neo Nazis wouldn't allow them. So the Ukrainian soldiers started shooting them. He also said that Azov took civilians as hostages to die with them.
     
    Jeannette, Mar 25, 2022
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    The American media is lying. Get information from different angles, but draw your own conclusions.
     
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