The Utter Contradiction Of The Conservative Religion Exemplified:-

Its prime directives:-

1) Spend every spare minute fighting those who want equality. Denounce them with labels like "Marxist" and "Commie".

2) Simultaneously claim everyone is equal and simply needs to work hard to get rich.

Contradictions don't get more obvious or more stupid. If you've somehow managed to miss this one, then you shouldn't really be posting in a politics forum.

Any thoughts?

 

I have one thought on number two. There are many people that don't care about being rich (doesn't matter). What matters most to them is good health, a safe place to live and pay there bills, and good food to eat. It is as simple as that.

 

That is just one of many contradictions in the right wing philosophy.

 

Nonsense. Many of you claiming income equality should be our goal are Marxists. Income equality s a stupid idea, and I am not the man Michael Phelps is in the pool, no matter how hard I try. But I can make a living by working hard. Get it? Equal opportunity. Not equality of results. Equality of results is Marxist thinking my commie friend.

 

It is reasonable to say, that those who perpetually hunger for power and crave excessive wealth... have surely failed Christ.

 

But you do apparently seem to think Michael Phelps should make millions more than the guy in the ER saving lives, or the broke inventors working on giving you your latest technology. Again, the contradiction is just simply jaw-dropping. For you, swimming through a pool is an important human task which should be rewarded with millions of dollars, but giving people mouth-to-mouth on a daily basis only deserves a few hundred dollars a week.

Lol. Your religion is stupid, bro. Without being exploited by Nike, Adidas, or whichever other multi-billion dollar company sponsored him, Michael Phelps wouldn't have any money either. He didn't make his money from swimming you dope: he made it from appearing on TV and lying to you that Nike products are the best.

 

This is the traditional repub (purposefully false) position. The claim is not, repeat, net income equality (except on whatever planet the people shrieking that may claim). The goal is, as stated, equality of (pay attention now) opportunity. The other traditional repub (and. also, purposefully false) position is to scream MARXISM at every possible opportunity. In repub circles, this substitutes for thought or anything approaching understanding. Finally, the most traditional repub response is to mindlessly accuse anyone disagreeing with them of being a COMMIE.

The overall educational level in the South is the lowest in the nation.

By the way, I really don't care how fast that kid swims. I'd rather watch women's beach volleyball. In this I am, for once, in total agreement with little georgie bush. I'm old, not dead.

 

Well sir, I've haven't read much of the Bible, but I do understand that those people are precisely the same kind of people who Jesus tried to show the error of their ways.

 

Yes. . .with the added oxymoron to pride themselves in being "CHRISTIANS" but rejecting all the fundamental teaching of Christ.. .and getting offended and on the attack as soon as Pope Francis reminds them of what Jesus's message was really all about!

 

There is a HUGE difference between "claiming income equality should be our goal" (which I never heard ANYONE state as a goal!), and wanting to SHRINK rather than expand the ever increasing inequality that exists today!

You do realize that that continued drive to increase the wealth of the top 1% that is costing the middle class to shrink is not sustainable, right?

What happens when there are ONLY two classes in the US? The poor and the obsessively greedy and their obscene wealth?

More cases of "Affluenza?"

When the poor have nothing to give, and the middle class has drifted into poverty. . . where will the wealthy get anymore wealth?

 

Democrats don't believe in equality of opportunity. They try equality of outcome. If they wanted equality of opportunity they would be for voucher education.

 

Equality of "opportunity?"

Like WHAT?

Like Bush, a C student, going to Ivy league university because "his daddy could pay for it," and the brightest among the youth having to work for minimum wage at McDonald INSTEAD or WHILE going to a third grade college because that is ALL they can afford?

Or a 14 year old Black kid who accidentally killed a man by hitting him and which, accidentally triggered his fall on a stone that killed him, being sentenced to 10 years in jail, while a 16 year old who CHOSE to drink to 3 X the legal limit for AN ADULT, choose to drive his friends and KILLS 4 people and leaves one of those friends paralyzed for life, gets 10 years PROBATION and a stay in a COUNTRY CLUB where he can get "therapy" for his spoiled childhood, but where he can also walk on the beach, ride horses, watch TV, play his video games, take cooking lessons and take yoga?

Yep. . .talk to us about "equality of opportunity!"

SICK!

 

Wha-what?

Democrats are fighting for equality of wealth and rights. Republicans fight for only equality of rights.

That's not a contradiction, just you not looking any deeper than simply seeing the word "equal".

 

Bull. The lie that is the repub voucher system was trotted out years ago. It turns out the "Vouchers" wouldn't begin to cover the cost of private schooling. Phrased differently, they were and are a combination of BS crossed with mental masturbation. In the mean time, the repubs, especially in the South, underfund the public schools while criticizing them for teaching the truth and making fun of anyone or thing smarter than they are (a category which includes yeast). If you want an example, look at Texas. Without lies, the entire repub party would fit into a matchbox with room to spare.

 

That's hilarious. The last Republican president made it legal to torture you, and throw you in jail indefinitely without even being charged with a crime, but at least the legislation applies to everyone, right? Lmao.

Except I don't think there are many Christians or Jews in Guantanamo. Funny that.

 

Yep. . .Republicans sure fight for "equality of rights. . ." except when it involves gay people. . .and women at work!

 

Over and over again this has been refuted by other posters (myself as well). You cling to this strawman "liberals want everyone to make the same money!!!!111!!" because it is the only argument weak enough for you to defeat. You don't have the courage to confront the actual argument that liberals simply want income inequality to be less than it is right now. The argument that it is important to reduce the number of people (and especially children) suffering from abject poverty, malnutrition, and preventable diseases while billionaires buy their third private jet and sit on gold-plated toilets.

How embarrassing for you that the only argument you can take down is one that doesn't even exist among the people responding here.

 

explain how is it the only way to bring people out of poverty is to close a income gap. How is it you have to take from one to give to another?
Are you under the false premise that wealth is finite? you do know wealth can be created? So why does a gap need to be closed by taking from one and giving to another why don't we give the bottom on the income scale the opportunity to create their own wealth.
That wont fit into your narrative will it? you need to divide, you need a boogey man, you need envy and class warfare

 

Man, you and Johnmayo love doing this, don't you? Create an imaginary argument and knock it down. Then, when someone calls you out on it, you create ANOTHER imaginary argument as form of counter-attack so you can knock that one down too! No, I don't believe wealth is finite. Yes, I know that wealth can be created. You don't know my "narrative" and you don't know me. Once and for all, stop asserting that others believe what you only imagine they believe. It's incredibly dishonest and reveals your inability to rationally discuss politics with people who think differently than you.

 

People should make whatever other people are willing to give them. If Michael Phelps or the MD or Walmart or even you, have a product that I value and am willing to spend my money to purchase, then so be it. And thats "my money", which I earned and can spend as I want without your permission.

My time, my work, my money. There is no difference between making me spend my money on what you think is important, and making me do the job you think is important.

Your attitude is the epitome of Big Brother - you want to impose your subjective values on other people. You are already talking about price and wage controls based on your personal evaluation of peoples value to society. It won't stop there, its a tiny step from that control to assigning people careers based on their value to your vision of society. You don't like Michael Phelps swimming in a pool and probably think he should be doing something more beneficial to society such as being an ER MD.

 

Its a contradiction. You can't be a conservative and be a Christian, not according to Christ.

 

Look at Walmart: The ONLY WAY they can make SO MUCH profit is because they are paying so little to their employees. . .and by doing that they accomplish two main things (aside from getting wealthier every year!):

1. They keep their employees in such a level of "fight for survival" that there is no way most of them can even YEARN for more education, or to "better" themselves. They live from one day to the next. Do you have any knowledge of Maslow's hierarchy of needs? Maybe you should look at that.

2. By keeping their employees basically "starving," they force the government to supplement the pay their employees get by providing food stamps and welfare. So, actually, Walmart is receiving CORPORATE welfare THROUGH their employees.

And, please, do not tell me that "employees have a chance to climb the ladder and get into management!" We all know that Wallmart runs on mostly low skills, low income, low potential hiring. . .and that they must do that, because their "ladder" is EXTREMELY steep and narrow at the top. NO matter how you want to look at it, out of the millions of Wallmart employees. . .there will never be more than ONE CEO!

And, "WEALTH" is not infinite. . .if it was, I'm sure those greedy top .01 % would have found a way to multiply it without forcing the middle class to shrink and disappear into the poor!

While SOME wealth can be created, ALL Wealth has ALWAYS been created by ideas, than those ideas realized by PEOPLE. . .and mostly poor people used as cheap labor (are you familiar with "the Jungle" by Upton Sinclair?

You don't think that "the robber barons" got their name from all the "charity" they sponsored, do you?

 

you know what God says about the rich and the camel....

 

You're right to attack conservatives since they are as bad as liberals.

But they are right to attack those wanting equality.

Equality does not exist and cannot exist.

Those who want equality in reality only wish to harm others or drag others down to a lower level due to the old rule that misery loves company.

This includes but is not limited to marxists and communists.

I have never heard any conservative say that everyone is equal perhaps you can cite some sort of source for this.

Either way not everyone can get rich but those who can should have the right to do so without penalization.

 

No. what?

I'm familiar with the New Testament description of a camel passing through the eye of a needle in comparison to a wealthy man getting into heaven.

But that is an ancient book of myth not " god ". FOr that matter who or what is this " god " you refer to?

In addition many scholars find that verse confusing due to the fact that the eye of a needle was actually a description given to a doorway shaped specifically to allow camels to pass through.

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You will have to cite a verse stating this.

I'm quite certian he never mentioned conservatives or liberals.

In fact if the man jesus ever existed he had no clue what those terms mean.