The world needs Trump out

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  1. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At some point.. you run out of labor when you keep taking more and more of the fruits.

    Somebody that doesnt provide labor for the fruits wouldn't understand this concept.
     
  2. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, you are claiming that I retain Individual Freedom, when you force the fruits of my labor to your cause?

    Yes. This is called supply and demand. Everybody is mandated to operate within these principals, even the ultra wealthy. I'm not sure I get your point.

    That ain't much? It's exactly what the person who got that earns.

    You need to stop thinking somebody else is defining the lifestyle you live. Only you do that. You are not a victim.
     
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    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nicely worded reply. I'm sure you swayed a lot of opinions.
     
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    It's the right direction. The only thing which is dysfunctional is the EU. Democracy has almost died in Europe. The EU is run by unelected officials who run it the same way the Soviet Union was.Brussels dictates individual countries what to do.Incidentally, all those liberal icons like Macron are far less popular than Trump in their own countries.
     
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    He used to be one.That's why he is hated so much by the liberal media and the rest of you.By the way, old habits die hard.
     
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    It wasn"t my intention to sway any opinion as neoliberals and progressives are brainwashed the same way the Sunni radical Muslims are.Both neoliberalism and radical Islam are ideologies that brainwash people from the early age.Why wasting time with the brainwashed ones?
     
  7. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dumb, dumb, dumb. You do not know what you are talking about!

    You go on Ignore ...
     
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    You are welcome.You obviously believe that ignorance is a bliss.Stay that way.
     
  9. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The victim is YOU.

    In the US, you do not have a Public Healthcare, which I do here in France. It costs me $20 to see a GP and in the US that same visit costs you $200! And surgery is astronomically costly, which has an influence on life-span.

    Which means in the US your lifespan is 79 and mine in Europe is 83!


    It cost me $950 to send my children to a post-secondary schooling here in France, whereas the average "state school" in the US costs $14K!

    You really don't know anything about what you are writing - you are knee-jerking at the altar of petulant blah, blah, blah* ....

    *Which is why you go on Ignore.
     
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  10. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump would not recognize a "friendly country" if his life depended upon it.

    The man is sick, sick, sick and through his public-demeanor a group of psychologists rank him as narcissistic. He should be put away.

    (See here from Psychology Today if you can't believe that fact.)
     
  11. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That presumes they know how to read. The site in Psychology Today recounts that psychologists who signed-on to the petition were in the thousands - 60,000 to be exact.

    Far too many Americans have swallowed the Public Image of Donald Dork, which is why he curries such favor. Nearly 40% of Americans think he'll get reelected.

    That percentage is mind-boggling. But, it is very likely due to the fact that most Americans confuse their thinking. That is, if times are good and they do not fear a lay-off from their job; so then the PotUS must be "doing a good job". Of course, the reverse is true also. Blaming someone/anyone for impending economic danger is a typical psychological reaction in many people.

    The PotUS has in fact very little effect on the economy - as any economist will tell you about Aggregate Demand. Consumer Demand (aka Consumption), is economically a personal attribute. If consumers feel that the economy will retract, then they retract Demand, which simply worsens overall Demand.

    The Economy is not the matter of one factor - the PotUS. Which far too many people think is true. They are deceiving only themselves and not any economist.

    If anyone wants to see the real "economic driver", they need only look in the mirror. In the aggregate, WE consumers are the economic-drivers.

    So let's stop blaming/praising the PotUS, shall we ... ?

     
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    Trump has never been a liberal or a Conservative. Trump will pander to any ideology that he thinks will work to his benefit.
     
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    Rush Limbaugh said anyone who talks about being fiscally conservative or balancing budgets or keeping the deficit down is bogus and it's all a bunch of hogwash

    The tea party switched to Kool-Aid

    Bill Weld 2020.

    I am a RIPO.. Republican in primary only
     
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  14. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True enough. He tried to warm-up Obama who would have nothing to do with him.

    Which is why he hates Obama now. Trump is a man-child spoiled rotten by his rich parents - always has been, always will be ...
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am a victim no nobody. That is also most likely why I am successful.

    Nor do I have any expectation that my government provide this. I expect that I have a relationship with my private doctor, and my private insurance provider... government need not apply.



    Uh. No it doesn't. My co-pay is $15.



    My entire cost for insurance can not exceed $2,000 as that is the amount of my deductible. In fact, that is the deductible for my entire family of 4.

    What you are doing is comparing non-typical US healthcare (people without insurance), to people in France with government insurance. That is dis-honest.

    Further, French tax rates are out of this world. For my income bracket, I would pay 45% tax in Income Tax alone. 45%! You seem to ignore that the cost of your healthcare is largely rolled into those tax costs. Your GP visit isn't $20... when you consider the portion of your tax rate that funds the healthcare system.




    Our lifespan has little to do with access to healthcare, and everything to do with unhealthy lifestyles.



    No it doesn't. You are completely ignoring the ridiculously high taxes you pay for that privilege. Paying 40% taxes, and then claiming education costs only $950 a year is completely false.


    What you have allowed, is for the government to tax the **** out of your labor, and then take care of you.

    I would prefer to keep my income and better decide what and who to pay rather than be forced to pay for something I would otherwise elect not to.

    Nearly everything in France costs more too. So not only is your government keeping more of the fruits of your labor, you get to pay far more than US citizens, for well... everything.

    https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/France/United-States/Cost-of-living

    Ok, later. Let nanny state take care of you from cradle to grave and pretend you are better off.
     
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    ^^^^ and I get banned for 6 months for derrailing?
     
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    Trump's blatant corruption will destroy the planet. All the rock.. the lava.. the time space continuum

    He IS the chosen stable genius one

    Sigareete?
     
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    Agreed..I just hit the ignore button.
     

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