The worst Democrats are leading in the polls

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  1. xwsmithx

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    1984.

    There are only 50 states. The number of hard blue states is under a dozen now: California, New York, Massachusetts, Vermont, Rhode Island, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Illinois, Colorado. There are more hard red states, but still under two dozen.
     
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    I think it should be Oprah. She's as rich as Trump but made her money honestly. She's the ultimate media savvy and she's just plain SMART. She's the Anti-Trump in every way.

    Oprah and Michelle, A New America in 2020.
     
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    They can't just ignore it entirely either
     
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    I knew I shoulda looked before I leaped!
     
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    Duplicate post
     
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    Democrats are openly trying to engineer a recession. Voters will just blame the DP for any economic downturn and reelect Trump.

    Ordinary Americans now know for sure that the DP does not represent their interests.
     
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    Again you fail to say one serious word actually responsive to the question posed in the OP. You are therefore trolling and it is not appreciated. I have tried to engage you, as have others who don't share your hatred for the President, but it only results in your posting something like this:

    "Pure BOVINE EXCREMENT proving once AGAIN that you can NOT engage in civil DISCUSSION but only PUERILE ad HOMS. This is NOTED and will be reporter to the PROPER authorities," followed by some silly yellow emoji of the type children often use.

    Go read your last 50 posts or so and see how many times you have postedsomething along those lines.

    I'll take you off of ignore in 12 months and see if there has been any improvement. Until then, adios.
     
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    IMO, it is always a mistake to ignore the opposition - especially when it is desperate.

    Your exchange with Deri has been interesting and often informative.
    Emotions often run high during an election cycle, but Deri can give you a substantive response, and will usually do that - eventually.
     
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    Unlike the DP's elite strategists you are still trying to think of ways to actually win the next election. They should hire you, but they won't.
     
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    The Electors should ignore the vote outside the states they represent. That is their job, and the reason we have a Union of states.
     
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    Logic fallacy followed by a non sequitur. Americans know that the Republicans are trying but failing to create a permanent GOP national government.

    The continuing progress of the NPV, which embeds the right of every state to decide it voting laws, will invalidate without challenging the EC.
     
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    I don't think of Trump haters as any more "the opposition" than I do Trump voters. I did not vote for Trump or Clinton in 2016 because I knew that neither would lead us out of debt, or even try, and Trump has actually made things worse. (I've been despairing about the deficit since the Bush years ... not Dubya, his father.)

    I would possibly vote for a Delaney-Gabbard or Gabbard-Delaney ticket. But I think we will see Biden-Warren (the horror) before it's over with, which means I'll either write in Rand Paul or vote Libertarian.
     
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    A Biden-Warren ticket would handily defeat Trump (I would like to see Gabbard on the ticket, myself).

    I voted for the Mormon conservative in 2016, Even McMullin. Watching how bad Trump has been still does not convince that I would vote differently today.
     
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    Yes, the GOP sucks. That is why it has lined up with the DP to undermine the radical anti-establishment Donald Trump.

    Ordinary Americans noticed in 2016, and their judgement has been confirmed again and again since then.
     
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    Haters are always the opposition.
     
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    :roflol:

    That is ALL you have?

    A DESPERATE GAMBLE that voters will believe that load of bovine excrement about the Dems and feel sorry for your snowflake BLOTUS?

    Sad!
     
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    :roflol:

    Not my problem if you can't handle constructive criticism of the lack of substance in your posts.
     
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    Yet they are voting against the red again and again and again since early 2017.
     
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    A Biden-Warren ticket would probably be the strongest feasible option for the DP.

    Gabbard is the best Democrat candidate, but the party establishment will not support her so she cannot win the nomination.
     
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    They are voting against Republican pols. They are not voting against Trump.
     
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    LOL! Democrats are openly calling for a recession. Isn't that clever of them? ;-)

    Yes, Virginia the DP will be blamed for the next recession. Now a recession will just be another DP Christmas present for Trump.

    "In Real World where ordinary Americans live the crippled Obama/Bush economy came to an end when Trump took office and started to keeping campaign promises. We are enjoying the Trump Boom. Even the NYT gets it.

    "With neither a recession nor a major war to run against, Democrats sought instead to cast the election in starkly moral terms. Yet by Election Day, the charge that Mr. Trump is morally or intellectually unfit for office had been made so often that it had lost most of its former edge among swing voters.

    “I don’t care if he lies or exaggerates in his tweets or breaks his vows to his wife, so long as he keeps his promises to me,” Leah Rownan, a self-described social conservative from Henderson, Nev., told The Times, citing the economy and Mr. Trump’s Supreme Court nominations as decisive for her vote. “And he has.”
    THE NEW YORK TIMES, How Trump Won Re-election in 2020, A sneak peek at the Times’s news analysis from Nov. 4, 2020., By Bret Stephens, July 26, 2018.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/26/opinion/trump-re-election-2020.html
     
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    And those more moderate reasonable ones are starting to drop out leaving only the radical.
     
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    Couldn't you say the exact same thing about Obama. He was as inept and dishonest as they get. He accomplished nothing and yet Trump has accomplished a great deal. Imagine that.
     
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    Worked for Trump, dinnit?
     
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    Yes in fact they can deny reality as well as any democratic supporter has for the last 3 yrs.
     
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