Theology and Religion of The New Pope Dawkins - The Devils Chaplin

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  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    The premise of atheism is in fact for more logical and intelligent than yours.

    Sorry but it is yours which is BS.

    The rules I violated are using logic and facts which you never tolerate because logic and facts makes you look utterly stupid
     
  2. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Christianity is bullcrap. There are so many things it leaves unexplained. Christianity spreads war like a plague.
     
  3. heresiarch

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    Atheistic regimes killed millions. Note that secularization of the european nations was, along with distorted darwinistic theories about the superiority of the arian race, one of the causes which led to the two world wars.

    It is true that today we have a much more evolved science and we don't believe in racial cleansing anymore. But our past is still there as a reminder of our brutality and foolishness. In fact nobody can tell for sure that such things won't happen again.
     
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    I suspect you simply don't understand the Theory of (Biological) Evolution. Or you understand it but realize if correct it defeats a literal reading of portions of Genesis, so you choose to attack it.
     
  5. heresiarch

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    The theory of evolution fails to explain intermediate stages in the process of evolution. Read carefully about it, you'll find a lot of interesting facts.

    Note that darwin's writings were the basis for later attempts at racial cleansing and eugenics. Darwin definitely sux.
     
  6. Strasser

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    Dawkins is mentally ill and a sociopath, as are most of his cult's followers. He doesn't even know what he's talking about most of the time to boot. He does provide the occasional comic relief, though, as in his hilarious attempt at refuting Aquina's 'Five Ways'; might as well have asked Beavis n ButtHead to explain the latest theories in topology.
     
  7. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Are you really so clueless that you don't understand what " beliefs and practices" means. Not murdering people for fun Is neither a practice or a belief. You making up definitions only demonstrates your own desperation and proves that you are incapable of intelligent and logical debate.
     
  8. sdelsolray

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    You are confused. The ToE is quite clear and definitive concerning predictions of "intermediate stages" (whatever that means). As evolution occurs, it has no awareness whatsoever of "beginning", intermediate" or ultimate" stages. The biological and chemical processes are the same. It is only a human observer, such as yourself, who would inquire into things such as "intermediate stage".

    Perhaps you are referring to a lack or sufficiency of empirical evidence. Perhaps you expect that each evolutionary change throughout the history of life on this planet (which number in the trillions, or greater) should somehow be available to you for analysis and review. Every. SIngle. Change. Just for your perusal.

    That's now how it is, and that's not how it works.

    Rest assured though, there are hundreds of thousands to millions of data points which have been uncovered which support the prediction of common ancestry. You can locate them once you research and read the tens of thousands of peer reviewed research papers covering the topic.

    So? A portion of Einstein's special theory of relativity was later used to build and use atomic bombs. Therefore, Einstein is bad. Right?

    However, those using E = mc2 used it correctly to develop atomic weapons.

    Those who "used" Darwin's simple observations (and yes, they were only observations not theory) of "survival of the fittest to reproduce" misapplied it, bastardized it and changed it to meet their own selfish ends. Yet you want to blame Darwin for that. You observe a stick in your backyard. Someone else picks it up and murders someone else. You're the bad guy because you observed the stick. Yeah, that makes sense.

    Your religious indoctrination runs deep. To bad for you.
     
  9. Kokomojojo

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    oh the irony! another meaningless claim from you with no supporting evidence or even so much as an explanation. always a comedian in the crowd.
     
  10. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Huh?

    atheists do not believe in God, that the definition of atheist and you think I am making an assumption that people who do not believe in god are atheists? Its not me whos having a problem here :roll:

    I cant think of anything that cant be put into a binary format.

    wrong agnostics are indeterminate, or inconclusive neither believe or not believe
     
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    And, the Bible claims God's Chosen People slaughtered tens of thousands of Midianite prisoners of war, including men women and children - except that they saved the virgin girls to be divided between the conquering generals as war booty.

    Was God upset??? Not according to the Bible!

    There are other horrible events in the Bible as well.

    I really can see no justification for defending God on the basis of humans who take his word being less horrible representations of humanity. Israel carries out ethnic cleansing against West Bank and targets civilians in Gaza. The USA slaughtered Vietnamese civilians with Billy Graham advising Nixon to attack harder. The Spanish Inquisition. The slaughter of native Americans. Drowning "witches". Owning slaves. Hanging humans for having dark skin.

    Yes, non-Christians have been horrible, too, but there is no big difference that proves anything about "god".
     
  12. CourtJester

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    So you classify "killing for fun" as a belief or a religious practice? Or perhaps you are confusing " killing for fun" with "killing for God" which is clearly a religious practice.
     
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    Where you keep failing is that the meaning of words are not defined by logic. An excellent example is the word antisemetic, its common usage defies what logic suggests.

    Most people agree that atheist is simply a lack of belief in gods, that's it. No logic is going to change the meaning of the word.

    And that is not my problem but yours, unless you can convince the rest of the world!

    So rant, ridicule, threaten to ignore, show your logical conclusions, put in some pictures, go blue in the face if you choose it won't help you one bit.

    Apply your alleged logical mind to the simple fact the word atheist exists only because someone has a notion that something called gods exist.

    If atheism is a religion, in a place where no one has a belief in gods, what do atheists believe?
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You need to post the above in the conspiracy forum, it has nothing to do with anything in this thread, try to stay on topic and logical!
    We need to prove nothing, if you wish to claim there is a god, supply the evidence as so many people have asked you in the past. I am not disproving logic for something no one has proved exists and for which even those who do believe it exists can not agree on who or what it is!
    Reminds me of an old girlfriend who kept sending me messages saying, "I'm still not talking to you!"

    soupnazi on the other hand is still exercising his right to destroy your arguments and you the lawgiver are still trying to punish him by denying yourself the right to reply. It's like a surreal farce!
     
  16. Kokomojojo

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    Not, you need to comprehend what I posted has nothing to do with a conspiracy. It was a comment on how delusional people are in the american colonies.

    I never claimed there is a God, not my argument. I claimed that your arguments are have no value because you cannot support any of them.

    Oh and you are better than everyone else and dont have to prove your arguments either. Sounds like a mob job to me.

    Oh soupnazi? I only seen one comment in one post across 5 threads that was worth commenting on but I already dealt with it for a different poster, I am not obligated to respond to anything he posts especially since its nothing more than strawman reruns that I dealt with long ago.

    But you do have a god, and those who cimprehend theism understand your god god is a 'false' god. Just because you dont understand it does not mean its undefined.
     
  17. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Thats absolute nonsense.

    I fully understand that pigheaded people with never change their minds no matter what and nothing can make them change their minds. Arent you happy that we have freedom of religion so you can believe what you want? Even in false gods, or even yourself, you can cut out the middle man you know and be your own god!

    Nope I wont convince the world of anything. You like the official story supporters in the 911 debates are doing a fine job of doing that for me ;)

    The null condition however is no knowledge, atheists support their logical errors with lack of knowledge.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Um are you ok man? I proved it using boolean algebra? You dont think its a bit nutty to scream failure about something that worked with flying colors?

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    no wonder you have so much difficulty debating me, you really need to learn how to distinguish the difference between a statement and a question.
     
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    Yeh, in fact I was surprised if not in some instances shocked to find out how much of their logic and understanding of life is literally turned upside down.
     
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    Hes' even more hilarious when he's trying to justify his cult beliefs in evolution and the ridiculous mathematical odds involved in that speculative opinion with almost no evidence. Talk about cognitive dissonance and pure fantasy. Trying to peddle 'Punctuated Equilibrium' as a hand wave as 'fact' always makes them look like nut house denizens; it can't help but do that.
     
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    Evolution is a cult belief. You Really can't be that stupid. Or maybe you can. No,wonder religion is only thriving among the poor and uneducated.
     
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    I certainly am not, try reading it again, this time for comprehension.
     
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    Once again rather than debate the points you simply offer out right refusal to accept common definitions, ridicule and deflection.

    In order for me not to believe in your gods(please stop saying God if you wish to argue one god, then name the thing) you have to invent them first.

    What can I not believe in until you invent it?

    Basically you have invented a religion (atheism) that is entirely dependent on your invention of another religion, for mine to exist!

    Can you not see the absurdity of your position, I Kokomojojo believe in gods, therefore you must now believe me, if you don't you are a believer there are no gods. And I Kokomojojo do not have to prove my gods exist, you have to prove my gods do not exist.

    Now we have by your assertions, The religion of Kokomojojo and the religion of Akokomojojo.
     

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