There Are Now 52 Exlanations for the "Pause" in Global Warming

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  1. AboveAlpha

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    The problems that arise from Global Warming and High Ocean Temps. is greater amounts of Water Vapor and CH4 in the atmosphere as CH4 holds in heat 71 Times greater than CO2 in our Atmosphere.

    As temps increase we get wild weather variations....early cold...hot where it is usually mild or chilly....and two more things that are the most destructive save one other......

    Rising Sea Levels and Much Stronger Storms.

    If too much Fresh Glacier and Polar Ice melts it will stall the heat trasfer currents and we get an ICE AGE.

    It is a major problem and the U.S. Military is already dealing with it.

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  2. Tahuyaman

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    except the long term data collected says it's not. Other than that........?
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lowest amount of Hurricane activity and even Tornados since 1962.
    Yer just making stuff up like Al Gore as you wing it.
    Yer just a hack liar.'
     
  4. Tahuyaman

    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    The fact that there has been no warming for decades and the environmentalists failure to jump up and take credit for it should be a clear indication that the issue was a hoax from the start.
     
  5. AboveAlpha

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    No....Ice Core samples going back over 100,000 years show that we have the highest PPM of CO2, CH4 and Ice Melt in 100,000 plus years.

    The Earth has a WOBBLE which after thousands upon thousands of years determines when we will have warming trends or ice ages....but we are NOT supposed to be in a warming or ice age period as we are between.

    You mess up the ocean heat trasfer currents such as the Gulf Stream's North Atlantic current by stalling it do to too much fresh water in the system as salt water is heavier...the stall of these currents results in an ICE AGE.

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  6. AboveAlpha

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    YEAH!! LOL!!!

    That's why the U.S. Navy is evacuating right now Pacific Island Nations that have had people on them for over 20,000 years but as sea levels rise people can no longer live on these submerged islands.

    Keep sticking your head in the sand!

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  7. Tahuyaman

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    They were researching ice core samples 100,000 years ago?
     
  8. Tahuyaman

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    You know what's funny? People today seem to think that just because we are here now, things will always remain as they are today and erosion and cyclical changes are unnatural.

    Everything and everyone continues to slowly change and continually evolve over time. That's nature taking it's course. We can't change that. We can't change the climate. We can't make it rain or stop raining. We can't create storms or prevent them from forming. Man is just another element of nature.


    That's just the way it is.
     
  9. AboveAlpha

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    Google...CDIAC....Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center.

    LINK...http://cdiac.ornl.gov/

    The CDIAC is a branch of the Dept. of Energy and from the Office of Science at OAK RIDGE NATIONAL LABORATORIES.....the same nice people that develop WEAPONS GRADE NUCLEAR FUEL for the U.S. Thermonuclear Force as well as all Military Reactors and Civy as well.

    Watch the top of the page as every 20 seconds or so if gives you a different chart based on 100,000 years of Ice Core Data.

    AboveAlpha

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    Actually...we can create storms and change the paths of Hurricanes.

    The U.S. was experimenting and DOING this in the late 1960's and 1970's.

    An International Ban on doing this was signed by all nations at the U.N.

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  10. Tahuyaman

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    Then I guess Bush was demonstrating his racism by not redirecting Katrina away from NO?
     
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    like I have said, we need more research, for all we know we postponing the next iceage....
     
  12. AboveAlpha

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    The problem is when a large number of C-130 Hercules Cargo aircraft loaded with cloud seeding material in the late 1960's to early 1970's CLOUD SEEDED a specific computer specified edge of a Hurricanes cloud wall...the Hurricane would change direction and perhaps not directly hit the U.S. but it would and did hit poor Island Nations in the Gulf and Carribbean.

    That is why the International Ban on doing this.

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  13. Tahuyaman

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    PT Barnum was right

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    And that's a bad thing? What would happen to all those species of fish and animals that would not survive another ice age? can't you consider them?
     
  14. AboveAlpha

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    Naw.

    Wish that was true.

    This has happened before due to the Earths Cyclical Wobble that gives us warming trends and ice ages.

    When a massive Volcano erupted and shot huge amounts of CO2 and CH4 from sea warming into the Atmosphere....at first the Earth warmed...then when the Ocean Heat Transfer currents stalled due to salt content being to low in fresh water Polar and Greenland ice melt....WE IMMEDIATELY WENT INTO AN ICE AGE.

    It happened so fast that Wolly Mammoths were found instantly frozen solid with green grass and flowers in their mouths and stomachs as they were grazing in temperate areas before it froze in seconds.

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    This is like saying landslides have always occurred, so setting them off with dynamite is "natural".

    Variations have always occurred. And they have always occurred for reasons, and the reasons vary.
     
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    Just get the global warming alarmists started then sit back and watch them make fools of themselves. It's a hoot.
     
  17. AboveAlpha

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    Making a fool of yourself is standing on dry land and slowly letting sea levels rise and standing there and refusing to admit you are being covered in ses water.

    Some people do this as they do not look at Data but look at Global Warming as a Political Issue.

    Well it is not.

    Boston and New York and all large cities up and down the Atlantic are building higher sea walls and Miami if anyone cares to Google is building a massive Billion Dollar Plus Sea Water Pumping system to evacuate flooding of Miami during storms which is 50 times worse than ever it has been in the past.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    ...and no major hurricanes in the last two years...
     
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    And that fact does not bother you?

    Weather patters are changing.....and Tornado's and Hurricanes are being recorded at stronger and faster wind velocities.

    But the main concern and this is NOT something that anyone can say is not happening....is rising sea levels.

    They are rising at an unprecidented rate.

    The damage that could be caused with such high sea levels such as what happened in New York City.....is astounding in damage and cost.

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  21. Tahuyaman

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    That's what happens when the tide is coming in. Of course you may have more experience in ses water than I.

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    They always have and they always will.. There's nothing we can do about it.
     
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    Because CO2 levels have continued to rise, but temps have not = complete contradiction of the entire Warmist Premise.

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    53 excuses....and counting....

    "The hottest decade" says who? The same "scientists" who got caught CHANGING THE ACTUAL TEMP READINGS to fit their "MODELS"?

    You still cannot come to grips with your own death, we see....
     
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    What is it that you don't get about sea levels rising so high due to Polar and Greenland ice melt that the U.S. Navy and Military is evacuating entire Island Nations in the Pacific that have never seen this in RECORDED HISTORY??

    Humans have been around for a LONG time and our ancestors go back in one form or another 5 Million Years.

    Modern Human's have gone through Ice Ages before but they happen in a CYCLICAL MANNER due to Earth's Wobble when orbiting the sun.

    If this current level of Ice Melt continues....there will not be any Northern Polar Sea Ice during the summer and it will be thin during Northern Winters.

    This amount of fresh water sent into the system is enough to trigger an ICE AGE!

    Canada and most of the U.S. except parts of Florida and Texas would be INHABITABLE!!

    This has happened before...it will happen again....and all data points to it beginning to happen NOW!

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    Except that sea levels have rise a few millimeters, not significant amount.
     
  25. AboveAlpha

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    Here is a LINK....http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/

    It is from NOAA...the whole world except the Poles shows an increase in sea level.

    This next link shows rises on the Eastern Seaboard of the U.S...LINK...http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/

    As you can see the rise in sea levels is happening so fast that much of the Eastern Seaboard will be under water by the end of this century.

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